I now know what Tim Fisher has been doing the last few weeks, logging into to survey thousands of times over to frig the result.
They should get the electoral commission to oversee this one
I just don't know what they're sticking around for. Some people think ego, but I don't buy that. Some think they're holding out for more money but even the most financially incompetent can see that there is no way for a return on their investment. There's been so many twists and turns, some massive ones that the best strategic thinkers in the world could not have set contingencies for... I really for the life of me cannot fathom the plan. It's certainly not to play our way out of it!!
I just don't know what they're sticking around for. Some people think ego, but I don't buy that. Some think they're holding out for more money but even the most financially incompetent can see that there is no way for a return on their investment. There's been so many twists and turns, some massive ones that the best strategic thinkers in the world could not have set contingencies for... I really for the life of me cannot fathom the plan. It's certainly not to play our way out of it!!
Of course they're holding out for money - at the minute on paper Sisu's investors haven't lost anything yet. They only lose their money when they sell up. The decision to pull out and leave is ultimately not up to joy and sisu but is the decision of those whose money was used to invest/loan the club money.
An interesting analogy BSB but what luck are Sisu waiting on? That ACL will finally crack......God I hope not!Reminds me of this Scouser gambling on a roulette machine in Brighton. He had taken out £1000 from a local bank and started betting like £150-200 a spin; some of the punters there for horse racing started watching this guy instead as he either banged his fist against the machine when he lost or shouted when he won. Eventually, he ran his money down to zero, so you think he'd just go and accept his losses right? No-he goes to the counter and demands that the women working there lock the machine while he goes out to take more money.
Returning with £400 and getting another £200 put on by card, he continues and soon he's down to his last £100 when he puts it all on a few rows and ends up winning £1k, at which point the whole bookies is forcing him to take the 'winnings'. SISU remind me of this guy at the end of his gambling streak, carrying on in desperate hope that luck will go their way.
An interesting analogy BSB but what luck are Sisu waiting on? That ACL will finally crack......God I hope not!
Surely those investors must have some idea, be it from Seppalla or what has been made public over the last few months, that their return is only getting smaller?
Is their return getting smaller? they were last offered £1 for the club, but while their investment is on a balance sheet as a loan/debt they haven't lost their investment yet. Not saying I agree with it, just throwing it out there as a possible reason sisu won't just leave....but to be fair would anyone 'just leave' when they have substantial amounts of money to lose?
The £1 was nominal to acquire the club with the oft quoted figure of £10m to pay off SISU's loans in part. We don't know how many individual investors there are or how much each stands to lose-but it's at the stage where the amount they can realistically get back is dwindling.
Where did the £10m come from? I can't remember seeing that. Anyhow, the fact remains whilst it's written down on paper, investors have lost nothing.
The reported offer from Hoffman was £10m to pay off some of SISU's debts. It may remain that way on paper, but in practice that investment is only worth what someone's ultimately prepared to pay. It's either that or nothing at all.
True, but it depends how long they are prepared to wait. Cut the wage bill to meet FFP, pretty much breakeven, ride it out a couple of seasons and see if they get a decent offer, whilst its on paper they have little to lose.
To be honest, the way Hoffmans bid disappeared after it went public makes me think they'd be another sisu.
We'll ultimately never know how credible Hoffman's bid was, just as we may or may not find out with Haskell. Cost cutting is only going to reduce the quality of the playing squad and put all the pressure on the manager to overperform for promotion which looks very far away right now. Their investors must be sick of it.[/url]
I disagree in this league, we should be able to breakeven and put out a very good side in this league - i'm sure brentfords and yeovils wage bill is dwarfed by ours. However, you do need to spend a bit more in the championship.
How can anyone say anything about our budget for next season. We don't know where we will be playing and thus have no idea of attendance figures......what a bloody mess!We'll ultimately never know how credible Hoffman's bid was, just as we may or may not find out with Haskell. Cost cutting is only going to reduce the quality of the playing squad and put all the pressure on the manager to overperform for promotion which looks very far away right now. Their investors must be sick of it.[/url]
I disagree in this league, we should be able to breakeven and put out a very good side in this league - i'm sure brentfords and yeovils wage bill is dwarfed by ours. However, you do need to spend a bit more in the championship.
Just spotted it in the inbox thanks to this thread.
'Given that we were forced to look for an alternative venue to host our matches, would you support the team at another stadium to help preserve the long term future of your club?'
Love the way they loaded that question. Still said no, obviously.
I disagree in this league, we should be able to breakeven and put out a very good side in this league - i'm sure brentfords and yeovils wage bill is dwarfed by ours. However, you do need to spend a bit more in the championship.
Then you're relying on the team to perform better than the sum of its parts-if the accounts are ever released we will have a good idea of what a break-even figure actually is. If crowds continue at the current level or lower, the crowds could be no better than the likes of Brentford and as seasons go by with us stuck in this league, we'll become part of the furniture just as we did in the Championship.
I'm normally a strong advocate of clubs running themselves within their means, but we desperately need up from this division as soon as possible.
We can overspend if we accept cross invoicing of certain revenues.
with all respect to Dan, stop the scamming & start being real,
OUR CLUB,
what part of that is hard to accept ?
Clouting ?
Dulieu ?
Brody ?
Clarke ?
Igwe ?
just what level of football knowledge is contained therein ?
And from what I have read about Dan he is a fan and genuine. The questionnaire is straight forward- the one area which may divide is the bit about the future. Front what I've read on here and the telegraph it's less scam, more..well a question
He may well be a fan but he's also an employee and that survey to me was just an attempt to play on people's loyalty
I think the time has come to make jabs at Dan's appearance, family and create a HILARIOUS pun about his name. I suggest replacing the L with an N! Oh man!
I think I must have missed the publishing of these results?
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