Yes teams designed to play that way. I’ve got no issue with any style or formation you want on the whole, my issue is this formation doesn’t suit this squad. It means we have to play people out of position and drop some of our better players. And for that reason I don’t think it’ll work.
We just don’t have the wide AMs, the ST, or the fullbacks for 4231 IMO and the change is nothing but the fact we had a tough run prior to the break and overreacted.
We can agree there mate. Genuinely hope you’re bumping this thread at the end of the month to gloat.
With regards to the teams around us I completely agree.I think we'll have better survival chances by being more positive, not gung ho, against the teams around us. We bizarrely showed much more positive intent away at the league leaders than the league's bottom side
All the ones the bookies use. Our xG is toilet.
They can give you an idea of where you may be lacking... But as I stated they don't take any consideration of player ability, keeper ability... Formation... Nothing.
Just gives a score based on where you take a shot from basically
Yes but I’m saying we scored a lot of goals using a system some have written off
Last season we were 7th in the xg table and looked likely to go on and win the league anyway... These stats are almost pointless
Like sunderland this season, top of league 1 xg... Not even in the playoffs and 9 teams have scored more than them
These stats don't take into account a shot from 15 yards will probably go in more often if Lionel Messi is taking the shot over matty godden for example... Or the quality of the keeper they are shooting at etc etc... They are in effect, shit
I've said before it's not the magic bullet people keep making it out to be.
You can have two up top and still leave them isolated.
Similarly you can.play one up top but give them appropriate support
We had 5 men.in the box when we scored last might with Hamer arriving on the edge.
I can't remember us getting Walker plus 3 others in the box all game.
Robins did the right thing by tightening up hence 7 points in the last 4 compared to 7 in the previous 10 (I appreciate the quality of opposition.is a big factor) but he took it too far last night by not taking the shackles off on the hour mark whether by bringing on a second striker up pushing the midfield up nearer to Walker
All in all though, so far so good and still above Bayern Wycombe!
It’s the sarcy stuff at the end that pisses me off. Honestly I’ll just not bother giving my view in future, not worth the hassle and at the end of my tether with other stuff anyway
Absolutely fucking sick.of the endless stream of negative piss from you and others to be honest. Especially when most of the criticism is ill thought out bollocks from people who said staying up would be an achievement.
You’re absolutely clueless. You could write your knowledge of the game on the back of a postage stampYour not the only one struggling to tell what his intentions are
I'm waiting for the negativity about our game against Cardiff using the same tactics.Absolutely fucking sick.of the endless stream of negative piss from you and others to be honest. Especially when most of the criticism is ill thought out bollocks from people who said staying up would be an achievement.
I'm waiting for the negativity about our game against Cardiff using the same tactics.
Or is it we beat them and in their two games since they have scored 7 and conceded no goals. Can't work it out myself.
I'm waiting for the negativity about our game against Cardiff using the same tactics.
Or is it we beat them and in their two games since they have scored 7 and conceded no goals. Can't work it out myself.
Anyone would think we’d lost the last four with all this doom and gloom
You’re acting like the most negative person on here. I’m sorry you have stuff going on in your life, we all have shit going on but you are acting as if we are bottom of the leagueIt was pretty euphoric on Saturday but that doesn’t fit the narrative that we want the team to lose and only focus on the negatives.
You’re acting like the most negative person on here. I’m sorry you have stuff going on in your life, we all have shit going on but you are acting as if we are bottom of the league
I see it from the perspective that we were conceding a shit load of goals and we needed to do something to tighten up. It’s all about now finding that balance. I don’t think we played well by any stretch but we didn’t lose and that’s the main thing for me. Plus we did create chances and had a goal ruled out. I’d love nothing more than to see us playing free-flowing attacking football, but not if it’s going to get us relegatedThat isn’t true though is it all I’ve fundamentally said is I think the set up is funnily enough too negative. Other people say basically the same as me and I don’t see the insults and sarcy jabs going in. I haven’t laid into players or even personally on the manager I just disagreed strongly with how he’s approached certain games.
I see it from the perspective that we were conceding a shit load of goals and we needed to do something to tighten up. It’s all about now finding that balance. I don’t think we played well by any stretch but we didn’t lose and that’s the main thing for me. Plus we did create chances and had a goal ruled out. I’d love nothing more than to see us playing free-flowing attacking football, but not if it’s going to get us relegated
Please don’t take anything I say personally, I have nothing against you and have agreed with many of your posts over the years.Which is fine I just feel the reaction to some of my posts has been disproportionate, sometimes personal and not really warranted. Particularly when Biamou aside I haven’t gone after individual players or even really the manager all that much. Plus it should be clear when we do well I’m as happy as anyone else.
Please don’t take anything I say personally, I have nothing against you and have agreed with many of your posts over the years.
I think we will need to perform better on Saturday no matter what formation we play
They will be well clear by the end of the season. False position because of the deduction (albeit halved). Just need to take points of them when we play them.Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Reading
Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Reading
That defender crossed the ball in that lead to the equaliser?
In actuality, it’s no different bringing on a striker who goes on to score a goal? Or a midfielder who gets an assist.
Had we lost the game, what you’re saying would make more sense - but we got a result, and the subs had the desired effect.
Also, Hamer had so much space outside the box because Baka, Biamou and the rest were in the box being marked. 1 striker frees up a CB to maybe close down Hamer.
It seems to me like you are saying we got a desired result so it doesn't matter. There is no real counter argument to the fact the tactical decisions were terrible.
Yes, we scored an equaliser. It was lucky. If we carry on playing like that it we won't get away with it very often. I don't know about you, but I don't want to see any more taxi threads.
What tactical masterclass would you have done?
Late in the game, you throw the kitchen sink at the opposition. We did that, and it worked - MR set out for the subs to do something, in the last two games substitutes have earned us a point.
Again, football is an outcome-based industry. Whilst I enjoyed watching us against Forest and Watford more than the last two games... I'm a lot more happy with 2 points vs 0 points.
I doubt they will. It was fucking poor but MR is doing the best with what he’s got available. I was happy in the end because it was a point won. Before the game I wanted all 3 against bottom of the table with a novice manager. He should have made changes after 60-65 but didn’t. Im guessing because the options on the bench aren’t great in terms of changing a game. Let’s face it, we didn’t have a recognised match winner or changer on the bench but it’s what we’ve got. It’s going to be a long old season and once we get beat let’s moan and then park that game and comment on the next one.Yes, you throw the kitchen sink at them and react immediately. 99.9% of the time you change it like he did and nothing happens. He didn't bring another striker on until the last minute. This shouldn't have been as a delayed reaction either. Everyone was screaming for changes 15 minutes before we conceded. If we had been proactive and taken off some of the passengers we could have taken it to them and got 3 points.
As I said, on this occasion we got lucky with a sweet strike from Hamer. How you can bury your head in the sand and forget 89 minutes of bilge before that is incredibly short sighted. They very nearly made it 2-0 by hitting the bar and I'm still not sure how he missed that.
The performance and tactics were no where near good enough. A snatch and grab point was lucky in the end and I don't think they should be resting on their laurels at all following that.
I doubt they will. It was fucking poor but MR is doing the best with what he’s got available. I was happy in the end because it was a point won. Before the game I wanted all 3 against bottom of the table with a novice manager. He should have made changes after 60-65 but didn’t. Im guessing because the options on the bench aren’t great in terms of changing a game. Let’s face it, we didn’t have a recognised match winner or changer on the bench but it’s what we’ve got. It’s going to be a long old season and once we get beat let’s moan and then park that game and comment on the next one.
Yep, it’s time for 2 upfront and stop hoping that walker and previously Godden will bag their one or half chance a game. Max will ruffle some feathers against teams and bag the odd one and walker looks like he can score goals.I didn’t really get just swapping Walker for Biamou to be honest. They both need a partner
They will be well clear by the end of the season. False position because of the deduction (albeit halved). Just need to take points of them when we play them.
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