Sky Blue Kid
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I refer back to my post #85. Simple as that really.
It's not that small surely
Reads like the council are looking for technicalities to get the whole thing thrown out rather than arguing their side.
Just a thought but the company owning the lease and extension is ACL not Wasps holdings. ACL s a subsidiary, and subsidiary companies don't always survive but their assets can be transferred .............. we have seen that before haven't we
The sad thing is that if SISU do get some sort of "settlement" or even manage to win this or any other case the club by 2020. I can't see any of those funds ever being invested in the club. The never ending legal cases and entrenched positions of all sides is the cause of the collateral damage that is our club!they wont back out
the club have their stance, CCC have their stance and wasps have their stance
They will agree to meet, they wont get anywhere and back in court in May, followed by JR2 late 2018 or early 2019, followed by civil action mid to late 2019. What remains to be seen is their approach in 2020 and beyond, but I am sure they will have the court plan mapped out for years to come.
The sad thing is that if SISU do get some sort of "settlement" or even manage to win this or any other case the club by 2020. I can't see any of those funds ever being invested in the club. The never ending legal cases and entrenched positions of all sides is the cause of the collateral damage that is our club!
Just got in and took a look at the live feed. Seems confusing to me. Is the move to mediation simply procedural ? .....
Hmm, while I admire you putting your head above the parapit...I think as a fan base (those who are left) either come to terms with the fact this will go on for many years to come and the club will tread water with uninterested owners more concerned with prolonging the court battle, or we do something about it.
The former is the best way of keeping the 5,000 or so we have left and hopefully not lose too many more next season
You do wonder if its time for us to wave a truce and start looking at Nuneaton or similar grounds, as this season is already demonstrating, an empty "ricoh" cant be our home much longer.
An empty ricoh or a full coombe abbey stadium surely is a no brainer ?
Hmm, while I admire you putting your head above the parapit...
I could have bought / could buy a move to the Butts, but for whatever reason (true distrust of SISU / desire not to have difficulties with his local council etc.) that option seems closed.
Nuneaton would be... hard to swallow.
Wonder if MMM fancies renting them Webb Ellis Road
What remains to be seen is their approach in 2020
No.Will us being out of the European union by 2020, have any impact on the appeal process?
Will us being out of the European union by 2020, have any impact on the appeal process?
Or, shock horror, we could stay at the Ricoh..
why be in a 30k+ arena with 6k attendances (and that's with the optimism of play offs / promotion this season).
And if so, surely its time to only open one stand for one set of stewards, one bar etc ?
If we took SISU out of the equation (if only!) then we'd need a new ground for our own identity. Let Wasps turn their seats black & gold, whatever. We'd also need a smaller ground to begin with, but modular enough in construction we could improve it relatively easily.We aren’t anything like sustainable in the Ricoh until we hit the mid teens in terms of crowds IMO. If that’s where we plan to be, then fine. But if we plan to bumble around L1/2/Conference level we need a new ground.
If we took SISU out of the equation (if only!) then we'd need a new ground for our own identity. Let Wasps turn their seats black & gold, whatever. We'd also need a smaller ground to begin with, but modular enough in construction we could improve it relatively easily.
We've said time and time and time again, but a partnership with Warwick University would have been ideal. Of course while SISU are here, there's less than zero chance they'd be progressive enough to think that. It's also unlikely any of the immediate suitors would be progressive enough to think beyond the RIcoh.
That being said, as it stands, with next season not so long away now, we really don't have many options other than the Ricoh, do we?
yes, Nuneaton.
Because it's in Nuneaton?why would we not speak to them.
No mate we need a new fucking plan.We aren’t anything like sustainable in the Ricoh until we hit the mid teens in terms of crowds IMO. If that’s where we plan to be, then fine. But if we plan to bumble around L1/2/Conference level we need a new ground.
yes, Nuneaton. why would we not speak to them. perhaps cheaper rent, larger % of match day revenues etc
why be in a 30k+ arena with 6k attendances (and that's with the optimism of play offs / promotion this season).
And if so, surely its time to only open one stand for one set of stewards, one bar etc ?
We aren’t anything like sustainable in the Ricoh until we hit the mid teens in terms of crowds IMO. If that’s where we plan to be, then fine. But if we plan to bumble around L1/2/Conference level we need a new ground.
If we took SISU out of the equation (if only!) then we'd need a new ground for our own identity. Let Wasps turn their seats black & gold, whatever. We'd also need a smaller ground to begin with, but modular enough in construction we could improve it relatively easily.
We've said time and time and time again, but a partnership with Warwick University would have been ideal. Of course while SISU are here, there's less than zero chance they'd be progressive enough to think that. It's also unlikely any of the immediate suitors would be progressive enough to think beyond the RIcoh.
That being said, as it stands, with next season not so long away now, we really don't have many options other than the Ricoh, do we?
We do, we don't own one. We've needed a new stadium since we sold Highfield Road.To be clear, we do NOT need a new stadium!!!
Well there is. Without it, we might never have seen the current carpet baggers here running the club in the first place.There's nothing unsustainable about it.
Accrington was a better ground than Nuneaton’s.Some strict rules any stadium needs to be fit for the league.
EFL Official Website - Appendix 1 - Membership Criteria (Regulation 8)
Having never been to Nuneaton ground I do hope it's not suitable. Tho on our recent visit to Accrington I suspect it is.
To be clear, we do NOT need a new stadium!!! There's nothing unsustainable about it. The only unsustainable thing is spending millions on a new ground when we can keep paying the rent where we are.
Sorry i don't see why we need to own the stadium. This is just Sisu propaganda to justify their actions. The Ricoh as a whole loses money, why would we want an additional millstone around or necks?We do, we don't own one. We've needed a new stadium since we sold Highfield Road.
Well there is. Without it, we might never have seen the current carpet baggers here running the club in the first place.
Look at the post above yours. Sums it up perfectly.Sorry i don't see why we need to own the stadium. This is just Sisu propaganda to justify their actions. The Ricoh as a whole loses money, why would we want an additional millstone around or necks?
If we took SISU out of the equation (if only!) then we'd need a new ground for our own identity. Let Wasps turn their seats black & gold, whatever. We'd also need a smaller ground to begin with, but modular enough in construction we could improve it relatively easily.
We've said time and time and time again, but a partnership with Warwick University would have been ideal. Of course while SISU are here, there's less than zero chance they'd be progressive enough to think that. It's also unlikely any of the immediate suitors would be progressive enough to think beyond the RIcoh.
That being said, as it stands, with next season not so long away now, we really don't have many options other than the Ricoh, do we?
To be clear, we do NOT need a new stadium!!! There's nothing unsustainable about it. The only unsustainable thing is spending millions on a new ground when we can keep paying the rent where we are.
How is it SISU propaganda? Name me one person who believes SISU'd actually do it!Sorry i don't see why we need to own the stadium. This is just Sisu propaganda to justify their actions. The Ricoh as a whole loses money, why would we want an additional millstone around or necks?
I don't think we can while we're always the second rate tenants. It's confidently said Wasps won't change the seats and sure, it might cost too much for them now but, in terms of embedding themselves, I absolutely would do that if I owned the thing.I think we could make the Ricoh work financially and spiritually.
I don't think we can while we're always the second rate tenants. It's confidently said Wasps won't change the seats and sure, it might cost too much for them now but, in terms of embedding themselves, I absolutely would do that if I owned the thing.
The long term benefits of forging an identity and solidifying a presence are why you do the intangibles... and those self same intangibles are exactly what we need to do too... but we don't have the place to do them at!
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