But we've got a very different team now. The answer to the question is no.
So getting back to the OP question, do you miss Hamer?We’ve just signed a player with similarities to
Hamer (according to MR) so it’s not all that different. We built our team and the style of play based on Hamer being with us until Jan before the fait accompli given by his agent.
MR and his team are all about continuous improvement. CM is one of the few areas we haven’t actually improved on since we got promoted to the Championship.
How some people can say it’s the best position in our team is beyond me.
So getting back to the OP question, do you miss Hamer?
We sold them because they wanted to leave. I'd agree we've built a better team.Yes. We’d be a better outfit with him in the team.
Overall, we had to sell Gyokeres and Hamer to build a better team and we have. In preseason I said something along the lines that the loss Hamer and Gyokeres could be beneficial in the long term.
That wasn't the question.Of course Hamer would get in this team. I can't believe anyone would suggest otherwise.
People obviously have very short memories.
That wasn't the question.
He’s not disciplined enough positionally to play next to Sheaf in this formation. He’d probably play in COH’s position
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It's about defensive cover.Hamer and Sheaf played behind COH when we played 3-4-1-2 / the box. The formation favours Hamer’s style more, not less.
The season, when teams try to counter us, Wright and Sakamoto will track back to fill in if Eccles and Sheaf aren’t in position. In 3-4-1-2 earlier in the season, we struggled if JDS or MVE too high up the pitch, which they tended to be because we didn’t play with wingers.
The difference last season is that we were happy to absorb opposition attacks before being the most direct team on the counter.
In Hamer can play next to Sheaf and behind COH in a 3-4-1-2/3-4-2-1 formation, why would he not be able to play with the exact same players in a 4-2-3-1?
Hamer and Sheaf played behind COH when we played 3-4-1-2 / the box. The formation favours Hamer’s style more, not less.
The season, when teams try to counter us, Wright and Sakamoto will track back to fill in if Eccles and Sheaf aren’t in position. In 3-4-1-2 earlier in the season, we struggled if JDS or MVE too high up the pitch, which they tended to be because we didn’t play with wingers.
The difference last season is that we were happy to absorb opposition attacks before being the most direct team on the counter.
In Hamer can play next to Sheaf and behind COH in a 3-4-1-2/3-4-2-1 formation, why would he not be able to play with the exact same players in a 4-2-3-1?
Because he had 3 centre backs behind him previously
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2 of which are advanced to provide attacking support.And now he’s got four defenders.
Forgive me but my first impression of you are rather low.“Hamer couldn’t play in this team” is some of the copiest cope that ever did cope.
His flex is to be as clueless as possible mate.Forgive me but my first impression of you are rather low.
I'm not sure you even watch us play given your frankly criminal lack of knowledge about our tactics and football in general.
Forgive me but my first impression of you are rather low.
I'm not sure you even watch us play given your frankly criminal lack of knowledge about our tactics and football in general.
Really? Yet you still replied.You’re forgiven. I couldn’t give a fuck what your impressions of me are.
Really? Yet you still replied.
Going to tell Nick i'm boosh?Well you were talking to me. But we’ll fix that.
Paid for for your season ticket yet? Thick c**tWell you were talking to me. But we’ll fix that.
Given he forgot he hadn't paid for his season ticket I would like to see him buy something online.Ifollow year pass
Never played and never paid.He’ll get personal soon, he’s a laughing stock on here. Everyone knows he has very little football knowledge as he has never played.
I'm not Boosh either, I'm more of a Zayn man myself.Need to get your facts straight. I’m not Boosh so don’t include me in your “new influx” shite
He genuinely hasn't got a clueForgive me but my first impression of you are rather low.
I'm not sure you even watch us play given your frankly criminal lack of knowledge about our tactics and football in general.
Because he had 3 centre backs behind him previously
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It's about defensive cover.
In a 3 man defence you will have the back 3, the other midfielder and possibly one of the wingbacks being part of the "rest defence" i.e. staying in defensive positions which allows the 2nd CM to position himself in a more forward position.
In the current system when the opposition transition to an attacking phase we usually have the whole back 4 and the 2 midfields as part of the rest defence.
The argument is Hamer would not sit as much as needed making us vulnerable in transitions.
That's true but the thread title was "Do we miss him", I argue we do not based purely on results.Hamer wasn’t a bad defender and it was never the case that we played 3 CBs to allow Hamer and Sheaf to play together. Hamer is not a CAM and has alway been a CM who is good on and off the ball.
The way Eccles and Sheaf get forward in the current system goes against the claim Hamer couldn’t play with Sheaf in our current midfield. Frankly, we’re a more attacking outfit and Hamer would add to that.
This is just silly talk now. Hamer is a better player than both Sheaf and Eccles and we could play any formation and he’d be selected to play.
You could say that if we had Hamer then Sheaf could play the Eccles role slightly deeper but then we wouldn’t get the best out of Sheaf that we currently are.
Enough said.That's true but the thread title was "Do we miss him", I argue we do not based purely on results.
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