Balli001
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Rumour today Diallo is going to Southampton
Rumour today Diallo is going to SouthamptonI feel we need another attacking midfielder, possibly a Prem loan (Diallo please) until O'Hare is fit. We can't rely on Palmer to play enough games.
I would like to continue to see Hamer in the attacking midfielder role. His end product is unmatched.
Doing that may mean another quality CM could be welcome. As Doug is on a spending bender it doesn't seem like it should be a problem.
Have to assume a full-ish season from Eccles will see him come on more again next season, though.I think we do, Eccles isn't quite there yet imo and despite Kelly being pritty good when he came back at the end of last season, question marks are over his head regarding if he can keep that standard and remain fit.
Rumour today Diallo is going to Southampton
But he's not essentially an AM, he's more box to box, his defensive work is hugely underrated, (though its great people are talking as if he's definitely here next season!).
As for the original question, yes, and assuming Gus stays, ideally I'd like other midfielder but there are bigger priorities at the moment.
Agree with the point about Howley, think he needs a loan.
I don't disagree with that point, but his goal contributions as soon as he moved into that position were what dragged us into and through the playoffs. I value end product over anything else and for me it would be counter productive to move such an effective player back down the pitch. He's the best AM we have, even if as you say, it isn't his first position.
Yeah, and Allen got a run of goalscoring, Palmer should get more than he does, and if we expect improvement next season he will... and for that matter it's Hamer's willingness to shoot that should get him goals. Even if playing a little further back I'd ask him, Allen and Palmer to aim for 25 goals between them. Ask Sheaf / Eccles to get, say, eight between them and the midfield gets some proper punch.He’s also the best CM and probably the best RWB.
He’s also the best CM and probably the best RWB.
I don't disagree with that point, but his goal contributions as soon as he moved into that position were what dragged us into and through the playoffs. I value end product over anything else and for me it would be counter productive to move such an effective player back down the pitch. He's the best AM we have, even if as you say, it isn't his first position.
Yeah, this - he wasn’t playing at the 10, he was just a man possessed in getting forward and winning the ball high up the pitch. His input from deep and his ability to dictate the play was still a huge part of our gameplan.but I don't think he was actually playing AM towards the latter part of the season, I agree, keep him playing as he was but it's just that I think he was more box to box and maybe the end product he was producing has distracted a bit from his defensive work.
So we're probably agreeing, just semantics, I just wouldn't like to see him relieved of his defensive duties.
Just keep him here and let him train with better players every day. He should get enough game time with our current squad depth.Howley could do with a league 1 loan
but I don't think he was actually playing AM towards the latter part of the season, I agree, keep him playing as he was but it's just that I think he was more box to box and maybe the end product he was producing has distracted a bit from his defensive work.
So we're probably agreeing, just semantics, I just wouldn't like to see him relieved of his defensive duties.
I respect your point of view, of course, but I just think goal contributions and end product cannot be overlooked. Semantics maybe, but he was definitely the most advanced midfielder behind the strikers a lot of the time towards the end of the season. Anyone that says he wasn't playing an effective 10 is blind, as he wasn't playing deep at all. That was the difference really. In fact, playoff final we only had one striker starting. The most advanced player after him was between Hamer and Allen more or less.
He's really good as that anchor of course, I agree with you there, I just think end product going forward is far more vital to a team. Goals win games. He has proved that he provides that.
Don't write off the Tom O'Connor rumour yet.
*Bradley Dack has entered the chat*We need someone for 6 months till O'Hare is fit and ready to go. I would prefer for the season so we can rest O'Hare and not put to much pressure on him. Allow him to get fit, then match fit and once match fit not put to much pressure on and risk another injury.
I like him*Bradley Dack has entered the chat*
That’s only really true of the play-off final. His average position that game:I respect your point of view, of course, but I just think goal contributions and end product cannot be overlooked. Semantics maybe, but he was definitely the most advanced midfielder behind the strikers a lot of the time towards the end of the season. Anyone that says he wasn't playing an effective 10 is blind, as he wasn't playing deep at all. That was the difference really. In fact, playoff final we only had one striker starting. The most advanced player after him was between Hamer and Allen more or less.
Personally I'd play Hamer further forward. He bought so much to that last ten games when played in there. Sheaf, Eccles and Kelly as the holders.
As much as Allen improved last year I'd try and replace him if we are trying to be a play-off candidate.
Is this a mute point now Sakamoto is here?
That’s only really true of the play-off final. His average position that game:
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Looks pretty advanced but it was highly unusual compared to where he was usually playing. In the other last few games of the season he played a lot deeper. For example, the Middlesbrough away leg:
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….or the Middlesbrough home leg:
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…..or Middlesbrough away in the last game of the regular season:
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It’s not that he didn’t get forward - he scored in all but one of these games - but he had so much work to do on both sides of the ball, his average position often isn’t much further forward than Sheaf and Eccles. That’s what makes him so amazing to watch.
That’s only really true of the play-off final. His average position that game:
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Looks pretty advanced but it was highly unusual compared to where he was usually playing. In the other last few games of the season he played a lot deeper. For example, the Middlesbrough away leg:
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….or the Middlesbrough home leg:
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…..or Middlesbrough away in the last game of the regular season:
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It’s not that he didn’t get forward - he scored in all but one of these games - but he had so much work to do on both sides of the ball, his average position often isn’t much further forward than Sheaf and Eccles. That’s what makes him so amazing to watch.
Howley will be a year older, better too.Last seasom cms were our most stocked position and we ended up struggling. Ohare, palmer, sheaf Kelly and Allen were all injured at some point, and all together I think at one stage. If we don't have that kind of luck again and keep hamer I don't think we need another cm
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