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Brighton Sky Blue

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With respect, probably take lectures on economic management from potential Green voters.

Anyone who listens to Zach Polanski or anyone on the Labour Left and believes the plans are credible is seriously misguided.
I would almost certainly not vote if an election were tomorrow.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I would almost certainly not vote if an election were tomorrow.
I recognise the feeling, it’s how I felt in 2024 but eventually voted Tory, begrudgingly so. Nonetheless, my recommendation to any left leaning voters is to vote Green. It sounds counterintuitive, yes but Reform cannibalising parliamentary Tory party has shifted them to the right economically and on other issues.

The Labour Party likewise needs that push into the abyss. The Tories and Labour may not survive as an electoral force past 2029 and frankly, they don’t deserve to at this moment.

Either way, we’ll more or less replay the 1970/80s where the main parties will be fighting elections further to the right and the left. Be it Reform v Greens or Tory v Labour.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I recognise the feeling, it’s how I felt in 2024 but eventually voted Tory, begrudgingly so. Nonetheless, my recommendation to any left leaning voters is to vote Green. It sounds counterintuitive, yes but Reform cannibalising parliamentary Tory party has shifted them to the right economically and on other issues.

The Labour Party likewise needs that push into the abyss. The Tories and Labour may not survive as an electoral force past 2029 and frankly, they don’t deserve to at this moment.

Either way, we’ll more or less replay the 1970/80s where the main parties will be fighting elections further to the right and the left. Be it Reform v Greens or Tory v Labour.
The Greens locally do good work, but nationally I find this new leader pretty dislikeable. I also say it as someone who has voted in every GE, local election and referendum that I could since 2010: I really wouldn’t vote for any of them.

None have either the interest or competence to improve things for families like mine. Wife feels the same, both hard working people with a young child and don’t see anything worth shouting about from either mainstream or flank parties. Reform getting in will fuck the country beyond repair though, so we’re keeping an eye on emigration or at least relocating within the UK if that happens.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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The Greens locally do good work, but nationally I find this new leader pretty dislikeable. I also say it as someone who has voted in every GE, local election and referendum that I could since 2010: I really wouldn’t vote for any of them.

None have either the interest or competence to improve things for families like mine. Wife feels the same, both hard working people with a young child and don’t see anything worth shouting about from either mainstream or flank parties. Reform getting in will fuck the country beyond repair though, so we’re keeping an eye on emigration or at least relocating within the UK if that happens.
A lot of people (still) do not like Farage and have opted for Reform. There’s evidence that Reform will breakthrough in Wales and Scotland this year. Previously Farage was ran out of Glasgow (or Edinburgh) and now Reform are probably going to be the opposition to the SNP in Holyrood.

Personally, I don’t find Polanski credible, at all. He’s not a good communicator of his ideas, especially under scrutiny. That said, electoral success for the Greens either broadens that church as Reform’s electoral success has or it kickstarts the Labour Party.

Be it Kemi or Farage, the next likely PM needs to drastically shrink the state and usher in a new consensus on the economy, welfare and borders.

For different reasons, we all agree that the country needs desperate change and Labour is, for large part, continuing a deeply unpopular status quo; open borders, ever increasing tax and spend, poor public services, petty regulations, wage stagnation, economic inequality driven by asset booms. It can’t continue.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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A problem the Labour Party has on its hands.
Yes, I’ve seen more than one piece on the emigration problem. Unfortunately, if the next government starts attacking things I think are essential for a functioning society, we will only be staying here if we can’t afford to move.

Not least because a mass dismantling of the state will probably see me out of work.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Yes, I’ve seen more than one piece on the emigration problem. Unfortunately, if the next government starts attacking things I think are essential for a functioning society, we will only be staying here if we can’t afford to move.

Not least because a mass dismantling of the state will probably see me out of work.
Frankly, your feelings is something that Dominic Cummings has picked up on in focus groups; in short, people are fed up and wondering why they haven’t left yet. In an aside, the reason net migration has ‘plunged’ is because emigration has spiked pretty badly and they’re usually skilled like yourself and presumably your partner. This is damaging for the country if net-tax paying families leave.

You’re a teacher, unless that’s changed, I’m not sure how or why you’re worried about losing your job. Spare a thought for teachers made redundant as a result of the 100 private school closures since the VAT raid.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Frankly, your feelings is something that Dominic Cummings has picked up on in focus groups; in short, people are fed up and wondering why they haven’t left yet. In an aside, the reason net migration has ‘plunged’ is because emigration has spiked pretty badly and they’re usually skilled like yourself and presumably your partner. This is damaging for the country if net-tax paying families leave.

You’re a teacher, unless that’s changed, I’m not sure how or why you’re worried about losing your job. Spare a thought for teachers made redundant as a result of the 100 private school closures since the VAT raid.
I haven’t been a teacher for 2.5 years. Currently doing a STEM doctorate with a view to entering the civil service-which I’ll be applying to next year all things being equal.
 

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