Its way overdue that we tax the fuck out of aviation fuel.
Been saying it for years but Its fucking obscene that I can fly to Spain for less money than a train ticket to Leeds
VibesWhere does the incoming government believe the growth is going to magically appear from? Is there any immediate stimulus or is it just more wishful thinking?
UK GDP stagnated in wet April; Wall Street hits record high as US inflation falls – as it happened
UK GDP failed to grow in April, as wet weather hit retailers and construction firmswww.theguardian.com
65 pence per litre currently?Carbon tax would surely work for this. Perhaps with a modifier for altitude as I understand that’s what makes aviation particularly nasty.
Where does the incoming government believe the growth is going to magically appear from? Is there any immediate stimulus or is it just more wishful thinking?
UK GDP stagnated in wet April; Wall Street hits record high as US inflation falls – as it happened
UK GDP failed to grow in April, as wet weather hit retailers and construction firmswww.theguardian.com
Rejoining eu trading area would bring immediate economic gain probably up to about 5% on gdpPlanning reform and closer ties with Europe it seems.
Rejoining eu trading area would bring immediate economic gain probably up to about 5% on gdp
YeahLike a Norway type deal?
As long as we took the French approach to some of the ridiculous tech legislation they’re bringing in I’d be OK with that.
I think it’ll be more piecemeal with deals for certain professions like vets and musicians that have had particular trouble.
Couple of really good policies, but nuclear has to be an important transitional power source away from fossil fuels.Stunningly stupid manifesto from the Greens. They want to ban nuclear power.
Not a serious environmentalist movement.
Couple of really good policies, but nuclear has to be an important transitional power source away from fossil fuels.
Agreed, it’s a massive issue I have with them and indeed whenever I go into more left wing circles I get very funny looks arguing for nuclear.Stunningly stupid manifesto from the Greens. They want to ban nuclear power.
Not a serious environmentalist movement.
I do not disagree outright, but I think it's near-sighted to disinvest in nuclear at this stage, but looking at how we're to construct and use it, is important.The nuclear solution is overstated. Look at Hinckley Point C. Over budget and overdue. Final bill is expected to be over 4 times the original estimate. The idea was first conceived in 2010, was supposed to be completed by 2020 and now it doesn’t look like it will be finished by 2030. Then there’s the issue that nuclear is no longer cheap power, in fact I think I’m right in saying it’s the most expensive to generate. And even the energy security/not depending on outside factors like what will Russia, China etc will do next argument doesn’t stack up well because it’s only being built because China is involved. The nuclear solution is looking more and more overstated as time passes by. Final cost of Hinckley C is estimated to be about £50B. Had we invested that in renewables over the same 20 year period we’d already have seen the benefits of it including cheaper energy bills.
The Green plan to eliminate nuclear power might actually be a lot more forward thinking than people are giving them credit for.
It should always have been an EEA/Norway-type deal as a compromise between the two.Like a Norway type deal?
As long as we took the French approach to some of the ridiculous tech legislation they’re bringing in I’d be OK with that.
I think it’ll be more piecemeal with deals for certain professions like vets and musicians that have had particular trouble.
What I would be much more interested in seeing is Europe and Africa combining resources and technology to turn the Sahara Desert into a solar power resource for both continents combined. More than enough sunlight hits that region to meet the combined energy demand.The nuclear solution is overstated. Look at Hinckley Point C. Over budget and overdue. Final bill is expected to be over 4 times the original estimate. The idea was first conceived in 2010, was supposed to be completed by 2020 and now it doesn’t look like it will be finished by 2030. Then there’s the issue that nuclear is no longer cheap power, in fact I think I’m right in saying it’s the most expensive to generate. And even the energy security/not depending on outside factors like what will Russia, China etc will do next argument doesn’t stack up well because it’s only being built because China is involved. The nuclear solution is looking more and more overstated as time passes by. Final cost of Hinckley C is estimated to be about £50B. Had we invested that in renewables over the same 20 year period we’d already have seen the benefits of it including cheaper energy bills.
The Green plan to eliminate nuclear power might actually be a lot more forward thinking than people are giving them credit for.
Would the sun not completely destroy the panels? Can imagine them getting mighty toastyWhat I would be much more interested in seeing is Europe and Africa combining resources and technology to turn the Sahara Desert into a solar power resource for both continents combined. More than enough sunlight hits that region to meet the combined energy demand.
Would also get Africa away from fossil fuels in the process.
The nuclear solution is overstated. Look at Hinckley Point C. Over budget and overdue. Final bill is expected to be over 4 times the original estimate. The idea was first conceived in 2010, was supposed to be completed by 2020 and now it doesn’t look like it will be finished by 2030. Then there’s the issue that nuclear is no longer cheap power, in fact I think I’m right in saying it’s the most expensive to generate. And even the energy security/not depending on outside factors like what will Russia, China etc will do next argument doesn’t stack up well because it’s only being built because China is involved. The nuclear solution is looking more and more overstated as time passes by. Final cost of Hinckley C is estimated to be about £50B. Had we invested that in renewables over the same 20 year period we’d already have seen the benefits of it including cheaper energy bills.
The Green plan to eliminate nuclear power might actually be a lot more forward thinking than people are giving them credit for.
You’d build solar beacons rather than try to cover the area with panels. Work in the same way and easier to protect in what is not a particularly secure part of the world.Would the sun not completely destroy the panels? Can imagine them getting mighty toasty
The nuclear solution is overstated. Look at Hinckley Point C. Over budget and overdue. Final bill is expected to be over 4 times the original estimate. The idea was first conceived in 2010, was supposed to be completed by 2020 and now it doesn’t look like it will be finished by 2030. Then there’s the issue that nuclear is no longer cheap power, in fact I think I’m right in saying it’s the most expensive to generate. And even the energy security/not depending on outside factors like what will Russia, China etc will do next argument doesn’t stack up well because it’s only being built because China is involved. The nuclear solution is looking more and more overstated as time passes by. Final cost of Hinckley C is estimated to be about £50B. Had we invested that in renewables over the same 20 year period we’d already have seen the benefits of it including cheaper energy bills.
The Green plan to eliminate nuclear power might actually be a lot more forward thinking than people are giving them credit for.
Would the sun not completely destroy the panels? Can imagine them getting mighty toasty
To be fair something coming in late and over budget is par for the course in this country and points more to how useless we are than how ineffective the thing that came in late and over budget is.
You’d build solar beacons rather than try to cover the area with panels. Work in the same way and easier to protect in what is not a particularly secure part of the world.
Not read anything along those lines. Regardless the long term energy security for Europe and Africa lies in the desert in my view, but it would require investment and collaboration on a scale that will never happen with the Western governments that keep getting elected.Isn't there also something about large amounts of water needed for cooling purposes which could be run off to irrigate a substantial amount of surrounding land?
I agree. The Green policies I like, I really like. But the ones I don't I really don't.They always have, they just also have some monumentally stupid ones too. The problem with the membership writing the manifesto really.
I think there’s big plans in Morocco to do just that. It’s uniquely placed for wind too with a long Atlantic coastline and a dependable amount of wind. Longer term plans apparently include battery ships that will charge in Morocco sail to another country and then discharge into said countries grid.What I would be much more interested in seeing is Europe and Africa combining resources and technology to turn the Sahara Desert into a solar power resource for both continents combined. More than enough sunlight hits that region to meet the combined energy demand.
Would also get Africa away from fossil fuels in the process.
I know this might sound a bit mad, but I think we may well be at a point whereby things like tax bands and to an extent tax rates should be sorted from the data/stats, rather than being used as much as a political football.It's amazing no one else has thought about funding local services, i.e. Libraries etc, by actually taxing richer people more.
Yes, Morocco have done a fair amount of work on it already. If we were being smart we’d collaborate with them.I think there’s big plans in Morocco to do just that. It’s uniquely placed for wind too with a long Atlantic coastline and a dependable amount of wind. Longer term plans apparently include battery ships that will charge in Morocco sail to another country and then discharge into said countries grid.
Yes, Morocco have done a fair amount of work on it already. If we were being smart we’d collaborate with them.
What I would be much more interested in seeing is Europe and Africa combining resources and technology to turn the Sahara Desert into a solar power resource for both continents combined. More than enough sunlight hits that region to meet the combined energy demand.
Would also get Africa away from fossil fuels in the process.
Which is also my point, it’s an optimistic pipe dream but it would solve the energy problem for two continents at once. Something as an intermediate measure is needed.This is a really interesting look at that idea:
Tl;dr: it’s been mooted for over a decade and not happened because once you factor in the additional costs of transmitting and storing energy and the risk of investing in these nations you may as well stick solar panels on your own roof.
Hardly. Hinckley is overdue and over budget, that’s just fact and not a little bit either. EDF, the other partner in it is apparently taking a £10B hit and has pretty much said it isn’t getting involved in another project which brings you onto another issue I didn’t mention before but how likely is it that we can get someone to build it in the first place. That on its own may make Nuclear expansion untenable in the UK.No it’s the usual reactionary nonsense. Same as being anti-GMO
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