Ian1779
Well-Known Member
Is this some kind of shit MP Top Trumps? You do realise by having a pack full of Tories you’re going to get absolutely whooped?
Is this some kind of shit MP Top Trumps? You do realise by having a pack full of Tories you’re going to get absolutely whooped?How’s Jared O Mara doing? Lovely chap by all accounts
Is this some kind of shit MP Top Trumps? You do realise by having a pack full of Tories you’re going to get absolutely whooped?
Is this some kind of shit MP Top Trumps? You do realise by having a pack full of Tories you’re going to get absolutely whooped?
How’s Jared O Mara doing? Lovely chap by all accounts
Probably as well as Rob Roberts.How’s Jared O Mara doing? Lovely chap by all accounts
Didn’t see you posting your disgust at the antics of Charlie Elphicke did we?No I’m showing people who’ve committed worse - no criminal offence - as you consider yourself morally superior have you expressed disgust at these people - if not why not? Not a good look from a moral perspective - I don’t claim moral superiority from the Tories but I’m not throwing stones at very fragile glass houses
When you find news stories on Twitter that you just have to share.
When you find news stories on Twitter that you just have to share.
Perhaps they should try governing
BBC News - Budget 2021: Tax rises likely to leave middle earners worse off, says IFS
Budget 2021: Millions will be worse off in 2022, says IFS
An economic research group says many people will see their living standards fall over the next year.www.bbc.co.uk
Cheap champagne and internal flights though. This government don't give a shit how ridiculous they are.
I appreciate that mate, from a personal perspective I'm feeling the squeeze to the extent that I'm being forced to look for another job or actually I am going to try working for myself. I know it might be coincidence but it seems pretty tone deaf.In terms of booze, that’s how some will try to present it but it’s a bit more complex than that faz. I think most normal people will benefit from the simplification (pub chain shares and comments from the industry reflect that)
Sunak unveils overhaul of alcohol duty and tax cuts on some drinks
Budget: drinks to be taxed in line with alcohol content, as part of ‘radical simplification’ of systemwww.theguardian.com
Internal flights is a strange one. On an environmental basis I think they should be encouraging other forms of UK transport so don’t get the thinking other than maybe arguing theyre trying to encourage more uk wide business/travel...I’ve not heard justification but it doesn’t really sit right with me. The whole class/rich people argument doesn’t work though as for long hauls, which you’d argue are used more regularly by wealthier people, the duties are going up.
Ps I always expected to be paying more tax after the pandemic. I think most people did. If it’s being spent in the right way I’ve not got a problem with that...will hold my judgement on that until I’ve read the detail
Apparently the effects of brexit are twice as damaging to the economy than the pandemic so in reality you’re more likely to be paying more tax to cover the effects of brexit than you are the pandemic. Still no VAT cut on energy bills either, another brexit promise undelivered.In terms of booze, that’s how some will try to present it but it’s a bit more complex than that faz. I think most normal people will benefit from the simplification (pub chain shares and comments from the industry reflect that)
Sunak unveils overhaul of alcohol duty and tax cuts on some drinks
Budget: drinks to be taxed in line with alcohol content, as part of ‘radical simplification’ of systemwww.theguardian.com
Internal flights is a strange one. On an environmental basis I think they should be encouraging other forms of UK transport so don’t get the thinking other than maybe arguing theyre trying to encourage more uk wide business/travel...I’ve not heard justification but it doesn’t really sit right with me. The whole class/rich people argument doesn’t work though as for long hauls, which you’d argue are used more regularly by wealthier people, the duties are going up.
Ps I always expected to be paying more tax after the pandemic. I think most people did. If it’s being spent in the right way I’ve not got a problem with that...will hold my judgement on that until I’ve read the detail
3p off a pint and the masses stop reading after that.BBC News - Budget 2021: Tax rises likely to leave middle earners worse off, says IFS
Budget 2021: Millions will be worse off in 2022, says IFS
An economic research group says many people will see their living standards fall over the next year.www.bbc.co.uk
Cheap champagne and internal flights though. This government don't give a shit how ridiculous they are.
I appreciate that mate, from a personal perspective I'm feeling the squeeze to the extent that I'm being forced to look for another job or actually I am going to try working for myself. I know it might be coincidence but it seems pretty tone deaf.
I think the internal flights one is mental. Perfect opportunity to encourage more rail use as part of a hybrid working model of the future.In terms of booze, that’s how some will try to present it but it’s a bit more complex than that faz. I think most normal people will benefit from the simplification (pub chain shares and comments from the industry reflect that)
Sunak unveils overhaul of alcohol duty and tax cuts on some drinks
Budget: drinks to be taxed in line with alcohol content, as part of ‘radical simplification’ of systemwww.theguardian.com
Internal flights is a strange one. On an environmental basis I think they should be encouraging other forms of UK transport so don’t get the thinking other than maybe arguing theyre trying to encourage more uk wide business/travel...I’ve not heard justification but it doesn’t really sit right with me. The whole class/rich people argument doesn’t work though as for long hauls, which you’d argue are used more regularly by wealthier people, the duties are going up.
Ps I always expected to be paying more tax after the pandemic. I think most people did. If it’s being spent in the right way I’ve not got a problem with that...will hold my judgement on that until I’ve read the detail
Apparently the effects of brexit are twice as damaging to the economy than the pandemic so in reality you’re more likely to be paying more tax to cover the effects of brexit than you are the pandemic. Still no VAT cut on energy bills either, another brexit promise undelivered.
Haven’t listened to James O’Brien today. I was referring to comments made by the head of the OBR yesterday that brexit has damaged the UK GDP by 4% and that is expected to continue long term. It’s also what they said would happen as part of the apparent project fear. Looks like the experts were right on this one.I’ve heard James O’Brien this morning as well Tony ! He’s correct that based on current forecasts GDP will be lower in the long term although I didn’t hear over what period he’s talking about as it relates to permanent scaring. ONS has reduced Covid permanent scarring forecast from 3% down in March to 2% now, some think it might end up as low as 1%. So basically things can change, who knows when talking about permanent/long term
Typically he’s being disingenuous with how he’s positioning the questioning. Saying if people question ONS over that you’d have to question Sunaks budget/ONS forecasts it’s based on. These are short term forecasts though and even they are likely to be provided wrong
Ps There is no doubt Brexit is currently having a negative impact on GDP though
Yeah I have no problem with the general principle. It's where that tax is levied that's important, however.Ps I always expected to be paying more tax after the pandemic. I think most people did. If it’s being spent in the right way I’ve not got a problem with that...will hold my judgement on that until I’ve read the detail
I think the internal flights one is mental. Perfect opportunity to encourage more rail use as part of a hybrid working model of the future.
I’ve heard James O’Brien this morning as well Tony ! He’s correct that based on current forecasts GDP will be lower in the long term although I didn’t hear over what period he’s talking about as it relates to permanent scaring. ONS has reduced Covid permanent scarring forecast from 3% down in March to 2% now, some think it might end up as low as 1%. So basically things can change, who knows when talking about permanent/long term
Typically he’s being disingenuous with how he’s positioning the questioning. Saying if people question ONS over that you’d have to question Sunaks budget/ONS forecasts it’s based on. These are short term forecasts though and even they are likely to be provided wrong
Ps There is no doubt Brexit is currently having a negative impact on GDP though
I appreciate Yorkshire is a large county, but his constituency's in it!Rishi Sunak doesn’t know where things are part 1:
And part 2:
Google Maps is free my man.
I really hope you, me and SBT are still alive in 50 years just so I can see you still holding onto the hope that all the economic forecasts are wrong and this is just a temporary blip
...mate if I’m alive in 50 years I’d hate to think what state I’d be in ! As I think you know, my point was who really knows with any level of certainty what will happen economically in a couple of years let alone 5, 10, 20+...as Covid has proven all too well, hence example of the rapidly decreasing permanent Covid scarring forecasts ! That long term 4% is nothing more than a finger in the air....could end up being a lot better... or a lot worse.
It would be more useful for ONS to talk about the current/short term impact which I’m sure would be sufficient to make people sit up and take notice anyway
I started my own business at the start of 2020 and it was the best decision I ever made. It’s really hard work and the old greys are coming on faster and faster at 36 but if you’ve got the chance, go for it!I appreciate that mate, from a personal perspective I'm feeling the squeeze to the extent that I'm being forced to look for another job or actually I am going to try working for myself. I know it might be coincidence but it seems pretty tone deaf.
I started my own business at the start of 2020 and it was the best decision I ever made. It’s really hard work and the old greys are coming on faster and faster at 36 but if you’ve got the chance, go for it!
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