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It's a disgusting, atrocious, disgraceful immigration policy.
It's a disgusting, atrocious, disgraceful immigration policy.Time to try and distract the nation with a populist, yet probably unworkable, new immigration policy..............
Apparently it wouldn’t even workIt's disgusting for so many reasons, but it also seems wholly impractical and ridiculously expensive.
Can't pay to feed hungry kids but will pay to ship brown people off to Rwanda.
I can't actually see anything coming of it, I think it's just a bit of red meat to get the 2019 Brexit base on board ahead of the local elections.
Steve. You’re trying to pass opinion of as fact. The fact is that the UK MHRA used a regulation that predates brexit, predates the referendum and actually predates the promise of the referendum. There is literally nothing, nothing that the EU could have done to stop us approving the vaccine ahead of the EMA. Nothing. It’s complete bollocks. The Nadine Dorries reference is valid because even after I’ve quoted you chapter and verse you’ve continued with the fantasy, fully in the style of Nadine Dorries. Best thing you can do is read up on who the MHRA are and their role in the vaccine program, read up on regulation 174, there’s even a video of the head of the MHRA at a commons select committee explaining why Matt Hancock was talking bollocks when he first made the claim. Your first clue is that it was Matt Hancock who initially made the claim.
No, it will be just the one birthday.Each was a birthday
That never happened
He only saw people he worked with
None of them have had his baby yet
He only did what everyone was doing
How can anyone be expected to get everything right
We are all sinners
I’m a Catholic I’ve said my confession
God loves me and says I’m ok so long as there are less than 5 penalty notices m
I don't know who it is but I guess he's well meaning and not just "look at me, I'm very comfortable but want to show you peasants how to eat cheaply on my level of disposable income"His videos are pretty good tbf and he seems like a decent bloke
His name is "Atomic Shrimp" and I genuinely think he does it for the challenge. As mentioned before he forages a lot from his garden.I don't know who it is but I guess he's well meaning and not just "look at me, I'm very comfortable but want to show you peasants how to eat cheaply on my level of disposable income"
The real issue with it for me is that it is as you say populist, what kind of person likes this kind of shit.Time to try and distract the nation with a populist, yet probably unworkable, new immigration policy..............
I'm struggling to understand you not getting that being in the EU would not have legally stopped us doing what we did. Political pressure is one thing, but it isn't the same as saying "Brexit allowed us to do it". It didn't, because we could have still done it even if we were in the EU. Whether we would have done it is another question but EU membership by itself would not have prevented us from making the same decisions we did. If we hadn't it would've been due to our choice not to do so.Politically we couldn’t/wouldn’t of. I don’t know why people are struggling to understand. Other countries were stopped (‘persuaded’) from signing their own contracts. That’s a fact. I don’t know what political pressures were applied but it happened. There is no way we would’ve been able to deliver the same vaccine procurement/programme if we were still in the EU.
Oh hang on, I'd misunderstood the Rwanda thing. I thought they would send asylum seekers there while they are being processed, and then fly them back here once their application was successful.
But no, they are literally sending them to Rwanda and leaving them there, it's a one way ticket. Fuck sake.
Probably the entire GB News viewing audience, as well as a good chunk of avid LBC and TalkRadio listeners.The real issue with it for me is that it is as you say populist, what kind of person likes this kind of shit.
The real issue with it for me is that it is as you say populist, what kind of person likes this kind of shit.
These lads, mostly
These lads, mostly
I don't believe it's relevant that it is distracting the nation (as the Shadow Secretary for DCMS tried to say on Five Live this morning). THAT detracts from it being inhumane and ethically and morally reprehensible.Time to try and distract the nation with a populist, yet probably unworkable, new immigration policy..............
Based on what? We’re the country that got our money back, the country that got a veto on the euro, even little Denmark got a veto on the euro because it wanted. The article is opinion, it’s not based on fact and it certainly ain’t based on the reality of history of either our own experience in the EU or even a little country with a population smaller than London’s real life experience. Then there’s the small matter of Hungry’s vaccine rollout. It’s desperate brexit bullshit and as a demonstration of how bad Brexit really is the Brexit government has got to pass a lie of as fact.You’re totally missing my point Tony. I’ve acknowledged from the start that what we did wouldve been within the EU rules so I don’t need to read up on MRHA. You’ve failed to acknowledge the argument I’ve made about it being politically unfeasible to have done so though, which is nothing to do with MRHA.
I’ve suggested you read the article (fact based not opinion) which gives an insight into why but you don’t appear to want to. Lets leave it there as this isn’t the Brexit thread and it’s probably dull for everyone else, however, if you read the article and still disagree with my take, feel free to drop me a DM
Is this a clever link to Danish bacon??
Yesterday I found myself agreeing with something Nigel Farage said.Imagine a world where David Davis is the voice of reason.
None of that forrin muck, Great British bacon only!!1! World leading pigs. Get Bacon Done.
From the sounds of things sending people to Rwanda is going to cost many times the amount we'd spend keeping them here, what a genius plan.
Imagine a world where David Davis is the voice of reason.
What difference does that make? Their policy is equally shameful. It shouldn’t be a race to the bottom.Im referencing the fact this is really just a copycat policy created by Denmark isn’t it
Time to try and distract the nation with a populist, yet probably unworkable, new immigration policy..............
They’re the equivalent of the morons who kept Berlusconi in power for so long in Italy.Already have people on my socials calling it genius , his immigration policy that is .
The bloke at this point could be caught with people's wives in bed and they'd tuck him in .. this country is weak as piss
Already have people on my socials calling it genius , his immigration policy that is .
The bloke at this point could be caught with people's wives in bed and they'd tuck him in .. this country is weak as piss
Sadly quite a lot of people. History shows that xenophobia is highly popular.The real issue with it for me is that it is as you say populist, what kind of person likes this kind of shit.
Imagine a world where David Davis is the voice of reason.
Based on what? We’re the country that got our money back, the country that got a veto on the euro, even little Denmark got a veto on the euro because it wanted. The article is opinion, it’s not based on fact and it certainly ain’t based on the reality of history of either our own experience in the EU or even a little country with a population smaller than London’s real life experience. Then there’s the small matter of Hungry’s vaccine rollout. It’s desperate brexit bullshit and as a demonstration of how bad Brexit really is the Brexit government has got to pass a lie of as fact.
From the sounds of things sending people to Rwanda is going to cost many times the amount we'd spend keeping them here, what a genius plan.
#Refugee #costofrefugeecrisisThe sad thing is that's exactly what a good chunk of their voters would like to hear.
They'd be happy for the government to spend £30bn on sending some foreigners to Rwanda but don't want them spending a penny to help poor people put food on the table.
I’ve read the article 3 times and at no point does it say any country wasn’t free to go it’s own route, which of course they always were. It does say they held an emergency video conference of the 27 nations in response to the USA’s aggression in trying to buy up the world’s supply of vaccines before development was complete. It says that they all AGREED to purchase as a block to bulk buy vaccines. The biggest criticism in the article of the EU seems to be it backed the wrong horse. It even says in the article that it didn’t back BioNTech but also explains that wasn’t without the benefit of hindsight all that bad of a decision given BioNTech was a cancer drug researcher prior to Covid 19 so didn’t have the experience other companies did in developing vaccines let alone vaccines for coronavirus’. Maybe you linked the wrong article.All I mentioned was that I felt the UK was able to be more nimble and explained why. I’m not commenting on Brexit, the EU etc overall/in general just this one area.
You’ve obviously not read the article otherwise you’d know it’s pretty balanced and not ‘desperate Brexit bullshit’. As it states, is based on ‘dozens of interviews with EU diplomats, Commission officials, pharma industry representatives and national government aides’. Both authors are American, live in Brussels and work in The Politico EU health teams so you’d imagine have no angle on this.
I appreciate youre a passionate advocate of the EU, which is fair enough, but not accepting or even being willing to read anything that might be negative without calling it bullshit, delusional etc is not healthy. Nothings perfect and not everything is black or white.
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