Otis
Well-Known Member
Exactly.
He’d probably go up in a few peoples estimations !!
As NW indicated with Major, it’s not like Johnson tries to hold himself up as the beacon of virtue.
I think that’s what people miss sometimes. We’re a tolerant country and most will give people passes for their behaviours, we’re all human afterall, but what pisses them off is hypocrisy and lying, hence the uproar about partygate. It wasn’t the parties and the risk of Covid transmission that bothered people, it was the fact that No 10 made and implemented the rules and then lied
Back to Basics under Major led to the press finding out every last drop of infidelity from Tory MPs, and it meant they all had to resign from government when uncovered.I was just saying how I think some people (not press) view behaviours and leeway that some will give
The right and left leaning press will always lean towards supporting their own up to a point
I’ve seen plenty of negative/damning articles from right as well as left leaning press about Johnson. They’re just not usually front page which they would be in the left leaning papers or if roles were reversed
Corbyn did. Who made a big deal of it?
With Diane Abbott? I don't think that was an affair - he and his wife had split before then.
Why are women so fascinated by the man who could destroy Labour?
For Jeremy Corbyn has surged to the front in the Labour leadership race, to the deep consternation of his rivals.www.dailymail.co.uk
PVA didn’t know about him so it can hardly be that publicised?
the press frequently talk about Johnson from all sides. Max Hastings once put a huge very damming article about him in the Mail and there’s never been an attempt to cover up his womanising
Yes it was
Diane Abbott went told Jeremy Corbybn's wife to get out of town
Ms Abbott, pictured, then a young Left-wing activist, stunned her love rival Professor Jane Chapman – Corbyn’s first wife – by turning up on her doorstep out of the blue to demand that she leave London.www.dailymail.co.uk
Easy answer to that. A sympathetic media that has perpetrated this myth for decades.Also, how do the Tories have a reputation for economic competence? I’ll never understand it.
Jesus, this thread should be a lot bigger news. Particularly the Zahawi intervention.
From a former YouGov pollster about 2017 GE polling:
This is absolutely going to destroy trust in polling.
Discussing what an ex Labour leader did or didn't do almost half a century ago feels a little pointless, but did you actually read that article?
It clearly states that he split with his wife before he and Abbott got together.
Yep it’s a part of life and a fact of life but where it’s a pattern it’s more of a flagBack to Basics under Major led to the press finding out every last drop of infidelity from Tory MPs, and it meant they all had to resign from government when uncovered.
Blair was more tolerant, so people in government were allowed more leeway in their private lives. It's the way it is.
For balanceI didn't really care who Corbyn slept with either, although I was kind of impressed that his principles were embedded enough he divorced one wife over the choice of school for their child!
Not your fault where your parents send you.Yes I’m sure that was the main reasonbit strange as well given Jezza went to
The same type of school - though it wasn’t a huge academic success
As shmmeee says, if he shags Mrs Miggins for a pie I don't really care. If he shags Irena Spymorova for official secrets, I might be concerned.Yep it’s a part of life and a fact of life but where it’s a pattern it’s more of a flag
It is an interesting conclusion to say the least. Does he clarify who banned him? I assume his employers?
wtfSwitched on PMQs expecting Starmer to have a field day and go straight for Johnson's throat.
Bloody hell even with a gaping open goal in front of him, he's a truly shocking performer isn't he.
Jesus, this thread should be a lot bigger news. Particularly the Zahawi intervention.
From a former YouGov pollster about 2017 GE polling:
Key tweet:
This is absolutely going to destroy trust in polling.
I'm not really sure how anyone can have trust in polling anyway. The whole brexit one should be a lesson on that really.
Why?
Polls showed it was about 50:50 and it was.
Why?
Polls showed it was about 50:50 and it was.
He seems to always hold back and looking down at his crib notes certainly doesn't help. Never the most spontaneous of leaders.Switched on PMQs expecting Starmer to have a field day and go straight for Johnson's throat.
Bloody hell even with a gaping open goal in front of him, he's a truly shocking performer isn't he.
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Of the 12 Brexit polls released a week before referendum day, seven predicted a Remain victory, four predicted a Leave victory, and one was a dead heat. Only three polls showed a spread of more than five points. I (mis)remembered the Brexit polling as predicting a Remain victory across the board, but turns out I was wrong.
I think there is a margin of error in any poll.
Leave being +2, +1, +2, 0, +2
remain being +10, +6, +2, +4, +1, +7, +3, 0
Whilst not being across the board, and taking your figures as accurate, it does show a healthy remain lead in the final week.
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