shmmeee
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What’s that got to do with anything?
I mean it happens and we have data showing assaults on women go up in unisex spaces, but it’s not really the point.
The author is someone I know fairly well. Her arguments on
Do we have statistics on the number of times a man has transitioned to being a woman then used that to assault women in toilets or changing areas? Genuine question
What’s that got to do with anything?
I mean it happens and we have data showing assaults on women go up in unisex spaces, but it’s not really the point.
Exactly. No-one is saying trans good/trans bad, just the same as you wouldn't say men good/women bad, or vice versa.I actually agree with you
Tbf I don’t think he understands the actual point that’s being made
Exactly. That's actually how my misuss worded it.It’s not an argument on assaults is it it’s about being comfortable in their own environment
What’s that got to do with anything?
I mean it happens and we have data showing assaults on women go up in unisex spaces, but it’s not really the point.
Exactly. That's actually how my misuss worded it.
I had assumed it was based on that and athletics being brought up often when this debate happens. My wife who’s about as big a feminist as you will find argues strongly that ‘trans women are women’ and doesn’t understand the argument over allowing that to be the case.
Of course it had everything to do with attacking a vulnerable minority and directing anger away from the actual reasons behind issues.Sorry this is bollocks. Go talk to some feminist women about the problems with making woman a gender not a sex and removing womens spaces. Most of this came out during the proposed GRA reform a few years back.
It fuck all to do with “attacking a vulnerable minority”
It’s like a white bloke growing dreadlocks and thinking he’s part of black culture. Embarrassing.I posted that picture yesterday of Truss dressing as Thatcher in various situations.
Didn't realise she had last night as well.
FFS.
Of course it had everything to do with attacking a vulnerable minority and directing anger away from the actual reasons behind issues.
It’s all alarmist bollocks.
Do you have examples where women’s changing rooms have been removed for example?
Thanks for being condescending but I do actually.I actually agree with you
Tbf I don’t think he understands the actual point that’s being made
So she’d share a communal shower with someone with a penis and be fine with it?
I had assumed it was based on that and athletics being brought up often when this debate happens. My wife who’s about as big a feminist as you will find argues strongly that ‘trans women are women’ and doesn’t understand the argument over allowing that to be the case.
Why would she not be?
Yeah let’s just tar a whole group of people based on a sexual assault in a prison.Is this alarmist?
Ex-inmate gives account of sex assault by trans prisoner
Karen White ‘protected ahead of vulnerable women’www.lawsociety.ie
Of course it had everything to do with attacking a vulnerable minority and directing anger away from the actual reasons behind issues.
It’s all alarmist bollocks.
Do you have examples where women’s changing rooms have been removed for example?
yeah ok. What if a woman was is she allowed to object?
Yeah let’s just tar a whole group of people based on a sexual assault in a prison.
Yeah let’s just tar a whole group of people based on a sexual assault in a prison.
No, it's just another example of how superficial you areThe one which has nothing to do with what I posted? OK.
Genuinely I don’t understand what you’re getting at. You just said it’s nothing to do with sexual assault in unisex areas so what would my wife have to be concerned about with someone with a penis using the same shower?
Exactly. That's actually how my misuss worded it.
Her leadership campaign is as dead as Thatcher herself it seemsPerfectly normal
Genuinely I don’t understand what you’re getting at. You just said it’s nothing to do with sexual assault in unisex areas so what would my wife have to be concerned about with someone with a penis using the same shower?
Incredibly sad and worrying isn't it, that case.Is this alarmist?
Ex-inmate gives account of sex assault by trans prisoner
Karen White ‘protected ahead of vulnerable women’www.lawsociety.ie
Id imagine based on your age your wife is a liberal feminist. It’s quite different from second wavers like my mum who grew up pushing back against gender as an oppressive force over women.
Telling them that what makes you a woman is a bit of lippy and a dress is hugely fucking offensive.
Telling women they aren’t allowed women only spaces or they’re bigots is offensive.
Putting rapists in prison with vulnerable women is fucking horrific TBQH.
If you’re not a feminist, but you value truth in politicians or science in policy then it’s a litmus test. Does the candidate spout things they know are nonsense for political expediency or do they tell the truth? That’s what’s done Mordaunt.
I’d love to dig deeper into what your wife means by TWAW. I suspect it’s “leave them alone in toilets” and not “men can literally change sex by thinking magic thoughts”.
Come to a game with us some time and you can have that conversation yourself. Germaine Greer who is a feminist of a previous era has written pretty strongly on this topic to the point of expressing openly transphobic views.
You have also said it’s not about men just trying to abuse access to women in unisex areas by claiming to be female-so what is it about? Genuinely, as I don’t understand.
What if someone did? Is that trans phobic if they said they were uncomfortable and wanted that person not in the shower with them? Say a 14 year old girl in a shower with a man identifying as a women? Does she have a right to remove that person?
Yeah because he’s clearly representative of the wider trans community.
Christ.
Didn’t you say men should show respect if say they are in the night and walking on the same pavement as a women and cross the road so they aren’t threatened?
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