Does Robins lack ambition ? (1 Viewer)

Deity · Oct 8, 2023

We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

fernandopartridge · Oct 8, 2023

Bizarre post

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Sick Boy · Oct 8, 2023

And we could have 6 less points - I’d rather be harder to beat and drawing games, it gives us something to build on and indicates we can and will improve.

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 8, 2023

If anything, we’ve thrown victories away late on through not being robust enough to see the games out. See Lesta/Huddersfield/Hull already.

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 8, 2023

fernandopartridge said:
Bizarre post

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I think he understands football on a different level to us mere mortals, last week he said Wilson’s save was one he’d expect him to make

skybluecam · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
we could have thrown on Ubika

A striker so good you don’t even know his name.

If anything our issue is defensive. Hull and Huddersfield we threw away wins late on, Swansea we took the lead. Watford would have been a win if we didn’t concede silly goals.

Deity · Oct 8, 2023

Sick Boy said:
And we could have 6 less points - I’d rather be harder to beat and drawing games, it gives us something to build on and indicates we can and will improve.

This approach is the very definition of caution. Glass half empty.

There was a reason that Fergie Time existed when United were in their pomp. They would relentlessly go for the win. A draw wasn’t enough if you wanted to win the league.

Deity · Oct 8, 2023

skybluecam said:
A striker so good you don’t even know his name.

If anything our issue is defensive. Hull and Huddersfield we threw away wins late on, Swansea we took the lead. Watford would have been a win if we didn’t concede silly goals.

If you don’t push on to get another goal and create at least a 2 goal advantage you leave yourself wide open to conceding one and having to settle for a point.

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
This approach is the very definition of caution. Glass half empty.

There was a reason that Fergie Time existed when United were in their pomp. They would relentlessly go for the win. A draw wasn’t enough if you wanted to win the league.

When you're leading 1-0 with seconds to go I'd say caution is very much the order of the day.

Evo1883 · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
This approach is the very definition of caution. Glass half empty.

There was a reason that Fergie Time existed when United were in their pomp. They would relentlessly go for the win. A draw wasn’t enough if you wanted to win the league.

Not sure if you’ve noticed but we’re not quite Manchester United of 1999

Sick Boy · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
This approach is the very definition of caution. Glass half empty.

There was a reason that Fergie Time existed when United were in their pomp. They would relentlessly go for the win. A draw wasn’t enough if you wanted to win the league.

I’d rather have points than not and we’re hardly like Man Utd in their pomp.

Evo1883 · Oct 8, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
If anything, we’ve thrown victories away late on through not being robust enough to see the games out. See Lesta/Huddersfield/Hull already.

This , could be sat here in 3rd place pretty much

Deity · Oct 8, 2023

Evo1883 said:
This , could be sat here in 3rd place pretty much

So if we had been more ambitious and pushed for d second goal we might be third ?. We know being less ambitious and cautious led to us conceding and we are 13th.

Sick Boy · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
So if we had been more ambitious and pushed for d second goal we might be third ?. We know being less ambitious and cautious led to us conceding and we are 13th.

The Leicester defeat was down to them having a PL quality player and us not taking our chances, rather than us being overly cautious.

Evo1883 · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
So if we had been more ambitious and pushed for d second goal we might be third ?. We know being less ambitious and cautious led to us conceding and we are 13th.

We had 10 shots to Norwich 2 second half yesterday and the keeper pulled a solid save out to deny us almost on the whistle , we tried to win the game .. we don't lack ambition

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
If you don’t push on to get another goal and create at least a 2 goal advantage you leave yourself wide open to conceding one and having to settle for a point.

Have you watched Obikwu play before? I have on many an occasion, what attributes do you think he has?

Deity · Oct 8, 2023

Sick Boy said:
I’d rather have points than not and we’re hardly like Man Utd in their pomp.

I’m not suggesting we are Man Utd.
I’m suggesting that if you want to get promoted you need to be brave enough to try to turn a draw into a win. Sometimes it will pay off sometimes it won’t but mathematically you only need to win 2 of the 6 matches to be no worse off.

skybluepm2 · Oct 8, 2023

I think by Robins tinkering the team and bringing on the subs that he did yesterday, we had them on the racks for the final 15/20. If the cretin in the middle of the park had actually allowed the allotted time he should’ve done, I’m fairly confident we’d have won it, and deservedly so.

covcity4life · Oct 8, 2023

The 3cbs are a big part of how we attack too it should be noted. They push up to halfway line and in a sense act as midfielders almost. The wide ones especially have more freedom to get forward. Kithcing overlapped to cross from byline yesterday

procdoc · Oct 8, 2023

This has got to be a piss take surely?

Flying Fokker · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

Did you see how Norwich played when they beat us 4-2?

long way home · Oct 8, 2023

Robins last season had to deal with ground issues and losing COH last training session before kick off who was a massive part in his plan. This season he has had to deal with losing 2 of the best players in the league, blending 11 new players in from different cultures and different standards as well as dealing injuries to key players......

And you know what, every stat we have improved again. The proof is in the pudding don't over analyze it, Robins is a manager that is never up with wins and never down with loses, gaining points and building belief is key. He is very confident in his way of doing things and his job is to get players to believe in him and his plan. Losing doesn't help that or the inconsistency of losing a lot of games either. This league is tough as its ever been, slow and steady could be the way to go, building towards the end of the season will be beneficial.

SBAndy · Oct 8, 2023

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Have you watched Obikwu play before? I have on many an occasion, what attributes do you think he has?

Doesn’t matter. Fuck another striker on the pitch, that = GOALS.

SBAndy · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

To add to my previous point, centre backs aren’t solely there to mark people.

SkyblueDad · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

We are better off points wise now than we were this time last season, with basically a new team and some of our better players out injured. I agree we have probably chucked away 4/6 points but that’s probably the price of bedding in new players.
We will get better.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

Good grief, Mark Robins has had to rebuild the team AGAIN this season, have some patience.

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covboy9 · Oct 8, 2023

Robins has made some mistakes the signings haven’t hit the ground running it will take time but signed too many defenders and not enough midfielders the squad is unbalanced

did robins really think Kelly and palmer would play all season?? The injuries have hurt us but we are a midtable side looking up and rebuilding a bit, I’d rather be rock bottom in the prem tho! Was always gonna be a hangover from last season

we’ve lost twice so are hard to beat turn a few draws into wins up the league we go we’ll improve

covboy9 · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

I don’t think this is a bad post

Robinshio · Oct 8, 2023

we played bloody well yesterday
get our full team back and we are on the march
I could trust the experts on here, or Mark Robins ....... now let me think !!

BlueSkiesForever · Oct 8, 2023

I think Robins actually made some decent changes for once, I admit seeing Obikwu would have been interesting but I suppose it’s only fair Godden came on. I think brining Lati into midfield and switching Saka over to the left was a great move by Robins and something I didn’t expect him to do.
Whilst I do slate our midfield for not dribbling more and taking on defenders I think with our current injuries it’s hard to see what more we could have done, the likes of Eccles and Lati don’t really have that level of confidence or ability in them yet.
We played well we just lack that creative spark and confidence going forward. I’m hoping with O’Hare and Sheaf back we’ll see a more rounded side.

Evo1883 · Oct 8, 2023

BlueSkiesForever said:
I think Robins actually made some decent changes for once, I admit seeing Obikwu would have been interesting but I suppose it’s only fair Godden came on. I think brining Lati into midfield and switching Saka over to the left was a great move by Robins and something I didn’t expect him to do.
Whilst I do slate our midfield for not dribbling more and taking on defenders I think with our current injuries it’s hard to see what more we could have done, the likes of Eccles and Lati don’t really have that level of confidence or ability in them yet.
We played well we just lack that creative spark and confidence going forward. I’m hoping with O’Hare and Sheaf back we’ll see a more rounded side.

Robins has made many great changes , that's why we won so many late points in recent years

hill83 · Oct 8, 2023

Deity said:
We have drawn 6 matches this season giving us 6 points. We would have been better to have been less cautious, won2, drew 1 and lost 3…. Giving us 7 points.

yesterday with Norwich barely getting out of their own half we played 3 centre half’s , even bringing on Binks to freshen up that back 3. Why ? Who were they all supposed to mark ??

We could have brought Godden on in addition to Wright and Simms, we could have thrown on Ubika, but instead we added Joel and Binks …

In the end a Norwich own goal got us a much deserved point, frankly we deserved 3, but when you are at home and dominant surely we need to be less cautious, less rigid to a formation and crank the pressure up another notch or two ??

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