Doncaster set to loan two West Ham players plus more (1 Viewer)

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 5, 2011

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tra...-for-Doncaster-loan-switch-article807856.html

West Ham pair Freddie Piquionne and Herita Ilunga are ready to sign for Dean Saunders’ ambitious Doncaster Rovers in a loan deal.
Piquionne is available after falling out of Sam Allardyce’s plans and is set to join the Championship side.
Left back Ilunga is also out of Allardyce’s side since the arrival of George McCartney and will talk to Rovers about joining them on Tuesday.
Both Piquionne and Ilunga want to play to put themselves in the shop window and Saunders plans to bring them into a side that has picked up seven points in three games since he took over.

Saunders is still negotiating with free agent El Hadji Diouf and as he aims to turn around Rovers' season and drag them into the play-off positions.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...aster-go-for-Real-Madrids-Lassana-Diarra.html
DONCASTER have launched a bid to sign Lassana Diarra on loan from Real Madrid.

Rovers boss Dean Saunders last night landed West Ham's French ace Freddie Piquionne, 32, on a loan deal.
Now Saunders hopes to snap up French ace Diarra, 26, who joined Real for £15m from Portsmouth.
Saunders is also on alert after Newcastle said Dan Gosling, 21, could be loaned out.

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Now that is showing ambition to try and stay in this league, how the hell can Donny finance these loans?

Grendel · Oct 5, 2011

If it is true I am perplexed because they are not any stronger than Coventry financially.

Also it suggest the only poorer team in the league than us is about to get a lot stronger.

Fact is we seem to have a complete inability to sign any loan players. It could be the West Ham guys are still paid by the owning club.

Thorn seems naive and clueless in getting loan players in - actually he is clueless about everything.

SkyBlueScottie · Oct 5, 2011

Also trying to sign Mahmadou Diarra who Real bought for 18 million a couple of years back....

SkyBlueScottie · Oct 5, 2011

kduffy said:
If it is true I am perplexed because they are not any stronger than Coventry financially.

Also it suggest the only poorer team in the league than us is about to get a lot stronger.

Fact is we seem to have a complete inability to sign any loan players. It could be the West Ham guys are still paid by the owning club.

Thorn seems naive and clueless in getting loan players in - actually he is clueless about everything.

Do you seriously think its Thorn at fault?

Sub · Oct 5, 2011

kduffy said:
If it is true I am perplexed because they are not any stronger than Coventry financially.

Also it suggest the only poorer team in the league than us is about to get a lot stronger.

Fact is we seem to have a complete inability to sign any loan players. It could be the West Ham guys are still paid by the owning club.

Thorn seems naive and clueless in getting loan players in - actually he is clueless about everything.

so naive ?he saved us last season what is he ment to do with no money and no backing from the asses that run the club ?? ofcourse clubs will want us to pay for there players !! we have no money no options we are well n truly screwed

SkyBlueScottie · Oct 5, 2011

and they have already signed Ilunga on a 3 month loan after signing Chimbonda, now if he gets these playing, and putting in a shift they are going to find points coming more easily

Grendel · Oct 5, 2011

Yes. What makes me laugh is SISU are the devil incarnate for everything other than the choice of manager which apparantly is a masterstroke. Actually it is a cheap appointment and will fail.
As I said before on a previous post Thorn is a SISU man. No other club would consider him as a manager. Get real or we are down before Christmas.

wingy · Oct 5, 2011

Utterly Rediculous ,there will be no money whatsover ,even if they sell again in jan ,they are not investing ,so who do you want or think will come and take the reins from AT,CARSLEY?

Sub · Oct 5, 2011

AT was the cheap option that what it boils down to not who they wanted but the cheapest option and yes it is SISu fault he is manager. is he the messia ?no is he trying to work miracles with a shambles of a squad yes, wtf is he ment to do ? SISU are responsible for the players we sign the manager who picks the team the coaches the player sales and for the fuckin awful shape our club is in !! in one breath its get behind the team support them and in the next the manager is shit get rid of him. Like the rest of the situation we are stuck with SISU, the assholes on the board the manager and the paper thin squad and it will stay like this till SISU fook off!!

stupot07 · Oct 5, 2011

Doncaster have obviously found some money from somewhere, I would doubt very much that West Ham or indeed any other club would let their players go on loan for free, especially ones that are in so much debt. 99% of the clubs in England are making a loss, they are not going to give out freebee loans. At the end of the day it's the board/chairman that negotiate fee's, etc, and i'm sure is Alladyce said let Deano have them but don't charge them Karen Brady would tell him where to go.

Grendel · Oct 5, 2011

Sub said:
so naive ?he saved us last season what is he ment to do with no money and no backing from the asses that run the club ?? ofcourse clubs will want us to pay for there players !! we have no money no options we are well n truly screwed

I think it is somewhat naive to assume Thorn is anything other than a yes man for SISU. He won 4 games last season and without King would have won none. King would not have signed for Coventry if Thorn was manager. Now it is 5 wins since he took charge in March.

By the way it is quite common for Premier League Clubs to release players on loan and still pay the wages. We sold Lee Hughes to West Brom and still paid 40% of his weekly wage!

Grendel · Oct 5, 2011

SkyBlueScottie said:
Do you seriously think its Thorn at fault?

yes or are we saying nothing he does is wrong? Perhaps if SISU remain for 3 years and Thorn takes us into Blue Square Premier he is still not allowed to be criticised - sorry I don't buy that - he knew the score when he took the job.

stupot07 · Oct 5, 2011

kduffy said:
By the way it is quite common for Premier League Clubs to release players on loan and still pay the wages. We sold Lee Hughes to West Brom and still paid 40% of his weekly wage!

Yes but it's whether we can afford the % wage that they want us to contribute and the upfront loan fee they expect us to pay upfront. We ha a loan fee agreed with Bolton for ward last year that went down every minute he played, this was on top of the % wage we were already contributing. Don't forget we couldn't afford Parkins wages, or the upfront fee Rotherham were asking for Le fondre. We could only afford Cody because we sold turner first.

Spagbol · Oct 5, 2011

Surely at some stage our luck has to change, We are the most unsuccesful club in proffessional football, no top 6 finish, no promotion no semi-finals nothing for over 30 years
It's not all SISUs fault, but the last 3 years has really took its toll more than any other period.

Who knows what's around the corner, I honestly don't think it could get worse, even relegation or admin. would not make the faithful feel much worse. We need SISU out, I have heard all the ...but no one will take us on....yes they will...We do have a fantastic arena, not ours but could be half ours for a relatively small figure...say Torres left ankle, and despite the dropping gates, I do honestly believe that some optimism and a good run will see this increase.:thinking about:We need to put preasure on SISU, WE NEED TO PROTEST! Less than a month in on this "open dialogue", and thay have shut shop, no loans as promised and communication has ceased .

The protest needs to be ramped up, it was just right at Watford and Derby, but we need to get MORE organised and start it rolling again, this can't carry on they will KILL OUR CLUB !!

PUSB :blue:

Grendel · Oct 5, 2011

Spagbol said:
Surely at some stage our luck has to change, We are the most unsuccesful club in proffessional football, no top 6 finish, no promotion no semi-finals nothing for over 30 years
It's not all SISUs fault, but the last 3 years has really took its toll more than any other period.

Who knows what's around the corner, I honestly don't think it could get worse, even relegation or admin. would not make the faithful feel much worse. We need SISU out, I have heard all the ...but no one will take us on....yes they will...We do have a fantastic arena, not ours but could be half ours for a relatively small figure...say Torres left ankle, and despite the dropping gates, I do honestly believe that some optimism and a good run will see this increase.:thinking about:We need to put preasure on SISU, WE NEED TO PROTEST! Less than a month in on this "open dialogue", and thay have shut shop, no loans as promised and communication has ceased .

The protest needs to be ramped up, it was just right at Watford and Derby, but we need to get MORE organised and start it rolling again, this can't carry on they will KILL OUR CLUB !!

PUSB :blue:

I guess that is something we can all agree on

bamalamafizzfazz · Oct 6, 2011

Diarra??!!

I was only saying last week how much of a quality player he is and that he could do a job for a lot of premiership teams and now he is linked to Donny Rovers? Crazy!

Otis · Oct 6, 2011

Spagbol said:
Surely at some stage our luck has to change, We are the most unsuccesful club in proffessional football, no top 6 finish, no promotion no semi-finals nothing for over 30 years
It's not all SISUs fault, but the last 3 years has really took its toll more than any other period.

Who knows what's around the corner, I honestly don't think it could get worse, even relegation or admin. would not make the faithful feel much worse. We need SISU out, I have heard all the ...but no one will take us on....yes they will...We do have a fantastic arena, not ours but could be half ours for a relatively small figure...say Torres left ankle, and despite the dropping gates, I do honestly believe that some optimism and a good run will see this increase.:thinking about:We need to put preasure on SISU, WE NEED TO PROTEST! Less than a month in on this "open dialogue", and thay have shut shop, no loans as promised and communication has ceased .

The protest needs to be ramped up, it was just right at Watford and Derby, but we need to get MORE organised and start it rolling again, this can't carry on they will KILL OUR CLUB !!

PUSB :blue:

Where have we been unlucky? Series of poor managerial appointments, dodgy boards and shite performances on the field of play. Luck doesn't come into it.

SkyBlueScottie · Oct 6, 2011

kduffy said:
yes or are we saying nothing he does is wrong? Perhaps if SISU remain for 3 years and Thorn takes us into Blue Square Premier he is still not allowed to be criticised - sorry I don't buy that - he knew the score when he took the job.

YOU stated that Thorn seems clueless at getting loans in... I would suggest that he has a long list of what we would term reasonable options. How can you knowing the current predicament the club is in, the boards records in securing players, the boards record in allowing Westwood, Gunnars and King to leave without ensuring we have bought in bodies to replace them, how, how on earth can you lay it at Thorns door?

I said nothing about him being beyond any reproach, I am just wondering how you can blame him for a lack of signings?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 7, 2011

Doncaster now want Tevez

Grendel · Oct 8, 2011

SkyBlueScottie said:
YOU stated that Thorn seems clueless at getting loans in... I would suggest that he has a long list of what we would term reasonable options. How can you knowing the current predicament the club is in, the boards records in securing players, the boards record in allowing Westwood, Gunnars and King to leave without ensuring we have bought in bodies to replace them, how, how on earth can you lay it at Thorns door?

I said nothing about him being beyond any reproach, I am just wondering how you can blame him for a lack of signings?

There is a paradox to the argument. You state Thorn wants new signings. How do you know? He has never criticised his employer for lack of transfer policy. I guess the response to that is who criticises his employer. Well, a manager who believes in his own ability and future employment prospects elsewhere would. It seems to me Thorn has found Europia. He is a Scout who no one would ever consider management material. Now he is a manager at a club where the owners are seen as the ant-christ. He can just sit there and let the owners take the flack and do nothing to improve the situation.
I know I am in the minority but I want him out now.

wingy · Oct 8, 2011

But what would you replace with KD,and what would change from the anti -christ,any proven manager costs money,were probably still paying two others off @ the moment

Grendel · Oct 8, 2011

Yes we are paying the other two off and of course the selection of managers over the years has always been a massive issue and I am not naive enough to realise getting a progressive new man will be easy with SISU as owners. Would O'Driscoll, Robins, Robinson etc. contemplate Coventry - I don't honestly know.

I guess I just get frustrated that this particular guy get's over-praised. I heard this was the worst for 90 odd years and I cannot imagine if, say Peter Reid was in charge the majority would be quite so forgiving.

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