How do we pay for a players wage bill that could easily be four times what it is now? Yes we will have better gates, better sponsorship and advertising income, more merchandise sold but to break even we would be looking needing a turnover over 15m currently its around 6m.
Haven't you just answered your own question OSB? Whose to say a promotion wouldn't see a £9m increase in turnover from the income streams you mentioned? Granted, it is a hike, but not beyond the realms of fantasy (like a new stadium for example).
WM
not really because the est of £15m turnover would be to scrape in at the bottom of the table and that level of performance will affect the gates. But I agree anything is possible even a new stadium.
In the past match day incomes have run at £9 per head per game. that equates with an average gate of 30,000 to 6.2m. I cannot see such an average crowd level as that more likely 15000 or £3.1m. Current commercial income is around 3m that is worth apparently the drop to L1 cost the club 5m. Still leaves us short. There could be player sales yes but wouldn't we like our best players kept and if they go they will need to be replaced with similar quality or potential at Championship level
Don't get me wrong have been desperate to see CCFC have a successful season, I hope TM brings it ....... but getting promoted brings financial danger as well as excitement on the pitch. That's all
And also we might have a player or 2 to sell to balance the books
who ?
Do we have anyone who would command a fee apart from Maddison ?
Maybe Philips or Willis, but not much and they should become more valuable than they are now.
I would love to see us keep our best players but unfortunately we are not in the position to keep them at at all costs, just supposing TM or whoever the manager may be unearths a 25 goal striker and Maddison starts living up to his early promise do you think we have a cat in hells chance of keeping them here?
Whats to hate. We always have the potential to get promoted but some how it all ends up closer to relegation no matter who the manager is. TM is only going to be as good as the tools he is given or allowed to acquire.
who ?
Do we have anyone who would command a fee apart from Maddison ?
Maybe Philips or Willis, but not much and they should become more valuable than they are now.
Haven't you just answered your own question OSB? Whose to say a promotion wouldn't see a £9m increase in turnover from the income streams you mentioned? Granted, it is a hike, but not beyond the realms of fantasy (like a new stadium for example).
WM
Our turnover last time on the championship was just under £11m which was pretty much consistent the last 3-4 years in the championship, which was in the lowest 4 in the league.
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Like I said, the period you talk about, we were in decline (or at least stable for some of those seasons). Promotion might look a little more positive for turnover purposes.
Whats to hate. We always have the potential to get promoted but some how it all ends up closer to relegation no matter who the manager is. TM is only going to be as good as the tools he is given or allowed to acquire.
So we get promoted next season. It would be great to have some success for once. Then what? We wont have the resources to compete because we wont have the income, and the owners have said the club has to pay its own way from now on. How do we pay for a players wage bill that could easily be four times what it is now? Yes we will have better gates, better sponsorship and advertising income, more merchandise sold but to break even we would be looking needing a turnover over 15m currently its around 6m. At that time of course we will be in the option period on the Wasps deal with next to no chance of our own ground any time soon. To stay in Championship it looks like more losses and more debt to do so are our owners up for that?.
There is a lot of faith being put in TM, I hope he signs up, but the one thing TM has made very clear is that the owners support financial or otherwise has to be there. Is it? Can they afford success?
I doubt it would be enough to get a turnover of £15m. With 15k we had £10.8m turnover. I doubt very much we will average any more than 17-18k in the championship unless we're challenging at the top, especially as ST prices will go up significantly, that would bring in about £750k-1m. With little access to revenues at the Ricoh, we consistently have one of the lowest turnovers in the league. That's why we're far more likely to become a Peterborough/Doncaster than to do a Southampton.
Sorry to be doom and gloom but I think OSB work agree.
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