What is the hidden meaning here then nick?
The money in rent, the matchday rvenues that should be the Clubs, without the Club there is no matchday revenues.
How is it not neutral? If it isn't neutral why has TF and ML signed it?
Some are just too scared to lose face.
The money in rent goes to ACL, not the Council. ACL have never declared a dividend, so no money to the council as shareholders of ACL either.
The club sold its matchday revenues (and its 50% share in ACL).
So again, how much money have the Council sponged off the club?
So where in that did I say it is the fans fault?
There is no hidden meaning.
I said fans are refusing to give them money so SISU are using that money to plug gaps. The fans can't really moan can they while they refuse to give them money? Did you want them to go and sign Messi? Did you want them to spend money they don't have like we have in the past?
People just like moaning about whatever they can, they love being outraged.
I was replying to the fella who said people off GMK wont sign because they dont agree. My point being make it so everybody agrees and everybody signs.
READ what is said, not what you want to read.
Also the land deal with Tesco, seems like the club was expecting something and got nothing.
I know you were. What have I failed to understand here?!
I was not directly asking you the questions. But while we are on the subject please explain how it should be made so everybody agrees? Do you see anything wrong with the wording?
No, it wasn't a shock. Does that mean we got the money for him any earlier. And do you know if we even got all the money up front. Fair enough you disagree but neither of us know who Pressley wanted/wants and whether they were available, do we? Or do you know different? If you know all the financial arrangements of the Clarke sale then please let me know. I'd rather have loans than players like Dagnell who weren't up to the job. We'll have to agree to disagree.
And I'm not going to go into any ridiculous house analogies. We're not selling or buying houses.
The land deal with Tesco..
I was replying to the fella who said people off GMK wont sign because they dont agree. My point being make it so everybody agrees and everybody signs.
READ what is said, not what you want to read.
Fuck me you really cannot see the wood for the trees can you?
People are refusing to give them money out of principle! They are not going to a CCFC home game in Northampton.
I am not arguing that they "should try and sign messi". I want us playing back in Coventry. Why SHOULD the money be used to plug gaps from losses at Northampton when the money COULD be spent on matchday costs at the Ricoh resulting in a better return because more fans would turn up?
I actually think Sisu did ok over the window. The only person we lost was Clarke who engineered himself a move. Let's remember there was speculation around plenty of others.
Clarke was replaced by 2 strikers on loan which SP thought were the best he could get. Not the clubs fault one of them cleared off after 1 day.
At the time I said that it was only aimed at club owners. I think if it had things even if it said "all parties involved" to at least cover all bases. The CET report then said "it will get all parties involved" but when you read the petition it doesn't actually say that.
I was replying to the fella who said people off GMK wont sign because they dont agree. My point being make it so everybody agrees and everybody signs.
READ what is said, not what you want to read.
It was worded in such a way so that support and signatures could be rallied from all across the Country. Obviously we are the only severe Owner vs. Council case. An independent Inquiry would look at ALL parties.
Blimey Nick, PWKH agrees with it enough to sign, Fisher agrees with it enough to sign, Ainsworth agrees with it enough to sign.
It would seem that all of the main protagonists want it signed - so there's no logic to the argument that people shouldn't sign because the petition is insufficiently neutral, is there?
Yes, but I am saying it doesn't say anything about that on the petition. If it said all parties in running of football clubs or investigation into the running of football clubs rather than just football club owners.
I am not saying they won't look at them, I just mean the wording doesn't really say that all parties will be looked at and it is a petition into football club owners.
I had better go into hiding after slightly saying something not in line with the "majority" and before I get PM's with a whiff of a threat again.
Like I said, our case is unique because it is a row between the council and the club owners. Most others just have issues with the club owners. If people dont want to sign it based on their issues with wording then that is their problem.
Some would rather the club come home than bicker about wording - not directly aimed at you, but if the boot fits
Like I said, our case is unique because it is a row between the council and the club owners. Most others just have issues with the club owners. If people dont want to sign it based on their issues with wording then that is their problem.
Some would rather the club come home than bicker about wording - not directly aimed at you, but if the boot fits
Or sometimes it's about looking at the bleeding obvious staring you right in the face and accepting that the actions we fans are taking have consequences.
I was replying to the fella who said people off GMK wont sign because they dont agree. My point being make it so everybody agrees and everybody signs.
READ what is said, not what you want to read.
There are Cov fans who don't want a public debate with all the key players?
I assume that is not many?
Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Football is our national game but the interests of fans are being disregarded by club owners and ruling bodies - government action is needed. UK football clubs are not financial franchises: they are rooted in their local communities and are an important part of local identity and heritage. But a new type of club owner is disregarding all that, pricing many people out of the game with inflated ticket and other costs, alienating people by seeking to change clubs’ names, colours and so on. Football's governing bodies are failing to address the situation. We therefore ask that the Department for Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee revisits its work on football governance and illustrates growing problems by undertaking a short Inquiry into one particular club, Coventry City, whose owner has relocated the club from the City of Coventry to Northampton, 35 miles away. This will highlight concerns shared by football fans across the country, and the need for action.
That doesn't say anything about all key players, this is my point.
IF people on GMK aren't signing or won't or any CCFC fan won't then we need to find out what is stopping them and resolve that issue.
You can't stop stubborness.
Some need to feel that signing a petition or holding a bit of paper up will bring the club home. I am pretty sure if they did there would be more signing it.
Look at the protests as an example.
Anti ACL - a few blokes
Anti SISU - more people turn up but phase out over time
March that was just about CCFC, no sort of anti anything just PRO CCFC - shit loads of people
Yes the petition may well get all parties but people need to know why and how it will help our situation. I really do hope it reaches the target, it gets people talking and the truth all comes out.
Also the land deal with Tesco, seems like the club was expecting something and got nothing.
It was a simple idea and easy for all to do.
If Cov fans aren't going to sign this due to being pinickety about the wording, then what chance of getting the wider population in and around Cov to do so. Nit picking small mindedness springs to mind. All parties invovled would be expected (altough don't have to) attend. That is the whole point.
No, you find out why people won't and what their issue is and resolve it.
If lots of people won't because they don't know what it will achieve then tell them...
If they don't because of the wording....edit the wording.....
Nick the largest chant in that March was 'we want SISU out.'
The march was popular because the reality kicked in that SISU were going ahead with the move and they did not have to.
It was a simple idea and easy for all to do.
It was not popular because of the reasons you explained above.
I think you are wrong.
I think some (GMK) are so anti-council they wont stand for anything remotely anti-sisu. LIke I said, they would rather save face.
The land deal with Tesco..
I think you are wrong.
I think some (GMK) are so anti-council they wont stand for anything remotely anti-sisu. LIke I said, they would rather save face.
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