Dumb rules in sports (2 Viewers)

Otis · Mar 29, 2015

One thing in cricket that really annoys me is the Hawkeye and review system, whereby a decision goes upstairs.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the object of the game of cricket to get players out by either hitting the wickets or by catches from the batsman hitting the ball in the air?

I therefore just cannot get my head round a decision that goes upstairs and the replay shows the ball was actually going to hit the stumps, but that because it was pitched outside the line it doesn't count. If it was going to hit the stumps it was going to hit the stumps wasn't it? Surely if the ball is shown that it would have been hitting the stumps then to my mind that should be out.

Some really trivial penalties in rugby annoy me too. A tiny, silly little foul and suddenly it results in 3 points and this happens with extreme regularity. At times it also seems like the ref has to explain the foul on many occasions, to players with baffled looks on their faces.

Thought the Montenegro Euro qualifier thing was wrong on Friday too. A Russian player during the game is hit by a flare thrown from the Montenegrin crowd, which puts him out of the game and yet Russia are charged with using one of their subs. Even more annoying as it is their first choice keeper, in which is obviously a very key role to any team.

Any other dumb rules to be found out there in the world of sports?

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Mar 29, 2015

i hate the overtime rule in the nfl that if the team with the first possession gets a TD its done when they changed the rule a few years back it should have been a straight the other team has the chance to equal what you did not only if it was a field goal. looks like indie are pushing to get it changed though so it could come into place within the next few seasons

Otis · Mar 29, 2015

Silence_Is_The_Enemy said:
i hate the overtime rule in the nfl that if the team with the first possession gets a TD its done when they changed the rule a few years back it should have been a straight the other team has the chance to equal what you did not only if it was a field goal. looks like indie are pushing to get it changed though so it could come into place within the next few seasons

Yep, did seem an odd change.

ccfcway · Mar 29, 2015

a multi billion pound industry like football, yet day after day the officials get crucial game changing decisons wrong and they cant be reversed, despite the watching public seeing a replay less than 5 seconds later to confirm if the decision was correct or not.

NI had a goal ruled out for no good reason at all in their game today.

Alos goes for diving as well !

sw88 · Mar 29, 2015

Getting booked for taking off your shirt.

Not that I want to see grown men running around topless but unless the player is wearing an under armour type top under neath saying 'the referees a wanker' I really don't get that rule!?!

The offside rule as it is today; you have to be interfering with play. Surely if your stood behind the last defender, your off. Back to the old days rule for me!

Philosoraptor · Mar 29, 2015

When playing a game of chess at international level, if you can class chess as a sport, you can be up to an hour late for your game and no one bats an eyelid.

Most stupidest rule in sport of all time.

skybluetony176 · Mar 29, 2015

sw88 said:
Getting booked for taking off your shirt.

Not that I want to see grown men running around topless but unless the player is wearing an under armour type top under neath saying 'the referees a wanker' I really don't get that rule!?!

The offside rule as it is today; you have to be interfering with play. Surely if your stood behind the last defender, your off. Back to the old days rule for me!

It is odd that you can get booked for this but no one ever seems to get booked when an entire team (slight poetic license) surround the ref shouting at him how he should be refing the game using language that you don't need to be trained to lip read to understand.

Samo · Mar 29, 2015

Otis said:
Thought the Montenegro Euro qualifier thing was wrong on Friday too. A Russian player during the game is hit by a flare thrown from the Montenegrin crowd, which puts him out of the game and yet Russia are charged with using one of their subs. Even more annoying as it is their first choice keeper, in which is obviously a very key role to any team.

Yeah I thought that was completely wrong. If a team has to lose a player because of something outside the field of play the match should be instantly abandoned IMO. The only thing I can think is that the Russians chose to continue.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 29, 2015

I'd say penalising someone in rugby for 'not releasing' when under a pile of 20 stone men is a little dubious. Penalties in sport should be awarded for deliberate infringement of the rules, I think.

SkyBlueSid · Mar 29, 2015

The one that annoys me is the ridiculous and outdated 'away goals' rule in European games and some other competitions. A goal is a bloody goal! It dates back to the days before penalty shoot-outs so is no longer relevant but they still persevere with it.

I would say the rule about getting booked for taking your shirt off is really no problem. It is known to everyone so why do players do it? It serves no purpose at all and managers must despair at cheap yellow cards. If I were managing they would be fined a week's wages for needless yellow cards. Anyway, why shirts? Why not take your shorts or boots off. It's just daft.

Otis · Mar 29, 2015

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'd say penalising someone in rugby for 'not releasing' when under a pile of 20 stone men is a little dubious. Penalties in sport should be awarded for deliberate infringement of the rules, I think.

Yep, agree. There are many rules in rugby that seem to baffle players and coaches alike and quite often you will see some players penalised when they totally unable to release the ball.

ccfcway · Mar 29, 2015

Straight RED CARD for swearing at the ref
Straight RED CARD for diving
Straight RED CARD for taking shirt off after a goal

watch how quick they would all dissapear

Johnnythespider · Mar 29, 2015

Scrums in rugby, don't they realise that scrums wreck a good football pitch.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 29, 2015

Otis said:
Yep, agree. There are many rules in rugby that seem to baffle players and coaches alike and quite often you will see some players penalised when they totally unable to release the ball.

When I was watching the 6 Nations it seemed to be the most common infringement and one that was arbitrarily applied. The sin bin idea might work in football though you have to do more to get yellow carded in rugby so games would get farcical pretty quick!

Otis · Mar 29, 2015

ccfcway said:
Straight RED CARD for swearing at the ref
Straight RED CARD for diving
Straight RED CARD for taking shirt off after a goal

watch how quick they would all dissapear

Agree.

Also think they could eradicate pretty much all shirt pulling in the penalty box in an instant too. Think if word went out that every shirt pulling incident spotted would result in a yellow card and every defensive holding or shirt pulling would result in a penalty, it would soon stop.

Would be bonkers for a few games, but it would soon be eradicated.

Also, only the captain should be allowed to talk to the ref and no-one else.

ccfcway · Mar 29, 2015

i dont get why we dont do something about it.

For some reason the powers that be think that getting the players to wear a t-shirt with "respect" is going to do more good than a red card if they swear at the ref.

It happens at grass roots, so should happen at the upper levels of our wonderful sport

percy · Mar 29, 2015

you can play a football league match without goal nets but you must have corner flags !!! i would have thought it be more important to have the nets.

westcountry_skyblue · Mar 29, 2015

I watch a lot of Rugby league on sky and i like the fact that the refs have cameras especially when talking to a player.
I would love to see that in football.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 29, 2015

percy said:
you can play a football league match without goal nets but you must have corner flags !!! i would have thought it be more important to have the nets.

Think they're worried about players getting hurt by the top of the pole, at least that's what I was told when I re-qualified last year. Then again the rules also say you can have elliptical goal frames, maybe TM should look into that...

skybluetony176 · Mar 29, 2015

westcountry_skyblue said:
I watch a lot of Rugby league on sky and i like the fact that the refs have cameras especially when talking to a player.
I would love to see that in football.

Agreed. Would cut alot of the shit out straight away. I also like the way that refs in Rugby talk to the players constantly and the respect that the players give back to the ref.

Terry Gibson's perm · Mar 29, 2015

This shaking hands in a line before the game not sure if it is a rule, if I was a player I would just break off and go and finish my warm up like they used to.

Also the goal kick on either side is just an easy way to waste time.

percy · Mar 29, 2015

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think they're worried about players getting hurt by the top of the pole, at least that's what I was told when I re-qualified last year. Then again the rules also say you can have elliptical goal frames, maybe TM should look into that...

yeah youre right about that hence the height also being specified but it was the corner flag/post rule in general that surprises me

Gosb · Mar 29, 2015

Taking shirt off

I think this is pandering to the sponsor who, when a goal is scored and there's a close up of the scorer, wants to see their logo. So keep your bloody shirt on!

Noggin · Mar 29, 2015

SkyBlueSid said:
The one that annoys me is the ridiculous and outdated 'away goals' rule in European games and some other competitions. A goal is a bloody goal! It dates back to the days before penalty shoot-outs so is no longer relevant but they still persevere with it.

I would say the rule about getting booked for taking your shirt off is really no problem. It is known to everyone so why do players do it? It serves no purpose at all and managers must despair at cheap yellow cards. If I were managing they would be fined a week's wages for needless yellow cards. Anyway, why shirts? Why not take your shorts or boots off. It's just daft.

I thought the away goal rule was to make games more exciting, without that rule in a 2 legged tie the away team may attempt to shut up shop, get a draw and win at home, this rule discourages that and so attempts to make the football more interesting, while I certainly agree that it can be unfair if it does make the sport more exciting then perhaps it's worth it.

percy · Mar 29, 2015

why are you always onside from a throw in

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 29, 2015

percy said:
yeah youre right about that hence the height also being specified but it was the corner flag/post rule in general that surprises me

Some of the things we were asked to learn were pretty niche, like the pressure of the ball at sea level, the exact wording of the offside rule and so on. Everybody in the class could tell by looking whether a player was off but they could never use the right jargon.

stupot07 · Mar 29, 2015

Noggin said:
I thought the away goal rule was to make games more exciting, without that rule in a 2 legged tie the away team may attempt to shut up shop, get a draw and win at home, this rule discourages that and so attempts to make the football more interesting, while I certainly agree that it can be unfair if it does make the sport more exciting then perhaps it's worth it.

I don't think it actually achieves that, I wouldn't say the away teams are anymore attacking for the rule, if anything In the first leg, it encourages the away team to sit back in the hope of nicking a 1-0 win.

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Noggin · Mar 29, 2015

Otis said:
One thing in cricket that really annoys me is the Hawkeye and review system, whereby a decision goes upstairs.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the object of the game of cricket to get players out by either hitting the wickets or by catches from the batsman hitting the ball in the air?

I therefore just cannot get my head round a decision that goes upstairs and the replay shows the ball was actually going to hit the stumps, but that because it was pitched outside the line it doesn't count. If it was going to hit the stumps it was going to hit the stumps wasn't it? Surely if the ball is shown that it would have been hitting the stumps then to my mind that should be out.

Some really trivial penalties in rugby annoy me too. A tiny, silly little foul and suddenly it results in 3 points and this happens with extreme regularity. At times it also seems like the ref has to explain the foul on many occasions, to players with baffled looks on their faces.

Thought the Montenegro Euro qualifier thing was wrong on Friday too. A Russian player during the game is hit by a flare thrown from the Montenegrin crowd, which puts him out of the game and yet Russia are charged with using one of their subs. Even more annoying as it is their first choice keeper, in which is obviously a very key role to any team.

Any other dumb rules to be found out there in the world of sports?

I don't think cricket works without that rule, I'm not sure I can explain what I mean but wouldn't we see almost every ball pitched far outside of leg stump and swinging back in, the batsman would almost always be in the way even though he wouldn't be standing in front of the stumps because of the angle the ball would be coming from he would be. I could be talking complete crap though, I've never played cricket and I only go to a couple of games a year and mostly because I get treated to an awesome meal afterwards than because I enjoy the cricket.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 29, 2015

Noggin said:
I don't think cricket works without that rule, I'm not sure I can explain what I mean but wouldn't we see almost every ball pitched far outside of leg stump and swinging back in, the batsman would almost always be in the way even though he wouldn't be standing in front of the stumps because of the angle the ball would be coming from he would be. I could be talking complete crap though, I've never played cricket and I only go to a couple of games a year and mostly because I get treated to an awesome meal afterwards than because I enjoy the cricket.

It's an after effect of the Bodyline series in the '30s when we bowled everything on the legside with an almost entirely leg side field (there are also restrictions on this). As a batsman I don't mind someone bowling in this predictable way, short bowling's a lot more intimidating and more dangerous which is why they also clamp down on too much of it.

Noggin · Mar 29, 2015

stupot07 said:
I don't think it actually achieves that, I wouldn't say the away teams are anymore attacking for the rule, if anything In the first leg, it encourages the away team to sit back in the hope of nicking a 1-0 win.

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I have no idea if it works to be honest, I just think that is the intention and on the face of it it's understandable if a slightly unfair rule. You'd have to do a large study I think to find out if it works and of course talk to teams about their game plans. I would think it encourages attacking play from the away team but perhaps it encourages defensive play from the home team.

chiefdave · Mar 29, 2015

ccfcway said:
Alos goes for diving as well !

You could easily stop diving, just start at the top. All top level games and internationals are televised so have the footage watched after the match and any dive is given a severe punishment, say a two match ban. Would most likely be chaos at first but you can bet the diving would soon stop. They're actually doing a similar things in the NHL now an punishing what they call embellishment that hasn't been called by the ref during the game. After two punishments they coach gets a fine as well.

skybluetony176 said:
It is odd that you can get booked for this but no one ever seems to get booked when an entire team (slight poetic license) surround the ref shouting at him how he should be refing the game using language that you don't need to be trained to lip read to understand.

Same with this, automatic red for any player that does it and they'd soon stop.

Huckerby · Mar 29, 2015

ccfcway said:
Straight RED CARD for swearing at the ref
Straight RED CARD for diving
Straight RED CARD for taking shirt off after a goal

watch how quick they would all dissapear

This, this, a million bloody times this.

If they were serious about getting rid of it they would do this. They must think the drama makes the game more entertaining or something. I'd disagree

Gazolba · Mar 30, 2015

sw88 said:
Getting booked for taking off your shirt.
!

I'm all for that rule, because once it loses its shock value, players might start dropping their pants. Also in the ladies game, who wants to see a player remove their shirt and show off their sports bra? It's an acceptable rule because it is so easily complied with.

Gazolba · Mar 30, 2015

Otis said:
Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the object of the game of cricket to get players out by either hitting the wickets or by catches from the batsman hitting the ball in the air?

There was a situation in the recent Cricket WC final when the ball hit the wicket but the bails did not come off. The batsman was therefore not out. Seems like they need electronic stumps that ring a buzzer when the ball or the player touches them. The 'bails' are an outmoded concept.

covcity4life · Mar 30, 2015

Otis said:
One thing in cricket that really annoys me is the Hawkeye and review system, whereby a decision goes upstairs.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the object of the game of cricket to get players out by either hitting the wickets or by catches from the batsman hitting the ball in the air?

I therefore just cannot get my head round a decision that goes upstairs and the replay shows the ball was actually going to hit the stumps, but that because it was pitched outside the line it doesn't count. If it was going to hit the stumps it was going to hit the stumps wasn't it? Surely if the ball is shown that it would have been hitting the stumps then to my mind that should be out.

Some really trivial penalties in rugby annoy me too. A tiny, silly little foul and suddenly it results in 3 points and this happens with extreme regularity. At times it also seems like the ref has to explain the foul on many occasions, to players with baffled looks on their faces.

Thought the Montenegro Euro qualifier thing was wrong on Friday too. A Russian player during the game is hit by a flare thrown from the Montenegrin crowd, which puts him out of the game and yet Russia are charged with using one of their subs. Even more annoying as it is their first choice keeper, in which is obviously a very key role to any team.

Any other dumb rules to be found out there in the world of sports?

you dont like LBW rule?

so really you dont like cricket do you?

you dont have to make a thread every day you know otis. quality not quantity.

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