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Deleted member 5849 · Jul 29, 2019

Question. I think someone is having a laugh, and trying to pull a fast one over a parcel I sent.

I do however notice they weren't in when delivery was attempted, despite them claiming the item was destrotyed, and it still hasn't been collected.

Should I arrange for redelivery to their local police station...?

xcraigx · Jul 29, 2019

Have they made a complaint through eBay or PayPal?

Nick · Jul 29, 2019

What does the tracking say?

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 29, 2019

xcraigx said:
Have they made a complaint through eBay or PayPal?

Complained with no photos, I was stupid enough to accept a return automatically (if it's genuinely broken, I'll take it back) then noticed negative feedback already left. Again, I checked them out on the ebay app which doesn't show feedback left by them. That's annoying, as they have a habit of leaving negative feedback (including for something that was 50p!!!).

So, I was uneasy anyway and the thing is... they were late paying for it, the damage they claim *should* be impossible due to the laws of physics, and they claim it was a present for their dying father who has cancer. I seem to be getting all the stock cliches.

My original thought was to sit tight, video myself opening whatever was returned (in case it's an empty box) and go from there. But then I was bored this lunchtime and checked the tracking. it dawned on me they might find it more challenging to either retrospectively damage it, or even get hold of it to return it, if I sent it to their local police station for redelivery.

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 29, 2019

Nick said:
What does the tracking say?

Nobody in when delivery attempted.

Nick · Jul 29, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Nobody in when delivery attempted.

Unless the postman or the shop didn't update the system when they collected it?

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 29, 2019

Nick said:
Unless the postman or the shop didn't update the system when they collected it?

There is that danger. But then if that's the case, no harm done if I ask for it re-sent elsewhere, and I'll get a falsely mangled package back anyway

Although of course if I leave it, that's to my advantage when and if it comes to my appealing to ebay and it still says not delivered!

hill83 · Jul 30, 2019

Way more effort than it's worth selling stuff. Especially ebay, had endless problems with paypal years back too.

My wife used to sell stuff on facebook and gumtree and we'd have endless mouth breathers turning up trying to save 50p on a used candle or something. Had to ask her to stop in the end.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 17, 2019

Hmmm. Well they never returned the item. I then checked paypal to find the person was somebody I'd left negative feedback for previously, so they used their wife's account to buy from me.

Let's hope hell and fury is unleashed upon them by ebay... but I doubt it!

Gazolba · Aug 17, 2019

Tracking isn't infallible.
I once had a package 'delivered' that never appeared at my house.
I was home all day the day it was recorded as 'delivered'.
Either they left it at the wrong house and recorded the delivery wrong, or perhaps someone stole it from outside my door just after it was left there.
There are thieves that follow delivery vehicles and steal packages left outside doors.
Regardless, I had a hell of a time explaining that I never got it and to this day have no idea where it went.

Astute · Aug 17, 2019

Fleabay don't care about scams. They only worry about making money.

For instance look at motorhomes. Many are up for sale that are scams. But if you inform Fleabay they don't remove them. They are done as a buy it now. The seller says if you pay through PayPal you are protected and then they will get it delivered to you from whichever country they decide to say it is in. They also ask for a bank transfer.

But there is no paypal guarantee on motors. They send you a fake PayPal page. And if you fall for it you lose your money.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 19, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmmm. Well they never returned the item. I then checked paypal to find the person was somebody I'd left negative feedback for previously, so they used their wife's account to buy from me.

Let's hope hell and fury is unleashed upon them by ebay... but I doubt it!

Months later, and much sad stalking of the protagonists, I note that the husband was trying to sell 'my' item.

Hours on the phone to ebay in Utah(! they paid for the call!) and I* get the feedback removed.

It's the little triumphs... which make me think I need a more involving hobby.

But hey, chalk it down as a win for the simple sword of truth and justice!

eastwoodsdustman · Nov 19, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Months later, and much sad stalking of the protagonists, I note that the husband was trying to sell 'my' item.

Hours on the phone to ebay in Utah(! they paid for the call!) and I* get the feedback removed.

It's the little triumphs... which make me think I need a more involving hobby.

But hey, chalk it down as a win for the simple sword of truth and justice!

bid on the item way more than it’s worth then cancel the bid at the last minute. Then when it’s up again get someone else to do it. Alternatively ask lots of stupid questions and waste their time. Small victories.

PurpleBin · Nov 19, 2019

Let us all know the item ID and we'll start a bid war. He'll think he's cracked it!

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 19, 2019

eastwoodsdustman said:
bid on the item way more than it’s worth then cancel the bid at the last minute. Then when it’s up again get someone else to do it. Alternatively ask lots of stupid questions and waste their time. Small victories.

PurpleBin said:
Let us all know the item ID and we'll start a bid war. He'll think he's cracked it!

They're both excellent suggestions, but currently I'm going to take the moral high ground.

I did consider setting up a new account on a VPN, and bidding on everything he's trying to sell, and just not paying...

Sick Boy · Nov 19, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
They're both excellent suggestions, but currently I'm going to take the moral high ground.

I did consider setting up a new account on a VPN, and bidding on everything he's trying to sell, and just not paying...

I like your style, that would have been much more entertaining.

fellatio_Martinez · Nov 20, 2019

hill83 said:
Way more effort than it's worth selling stuff. Especially ebay, had endless problems with paypal years back too.

My wife used to sell stuff on facebook and gumtree and we'd have endless mouth breathers turning up trying to save 50p on a used candle or something. Had to ask her to stop in the end.

Yeah ebay is trouble. A friend of mine sold gaming codes for Halo a few years ago and was making a killing. He'd buy them for say 50p and sell them for around £3+ and it was all digital so there was no postage fees etc.

Then one day he got an email from Ebay and Paypal saying an investigation had been started on his account and everything was frozen including around £2,000 he had in his Paypal. It turned out that someone bought loads of codes and then wanted a refund so informed Ebay that the codes were fake. Ebay couldn't figure out if they were or not because Halo and Xbox Live is a completely different entity.

They ended up refunding every single purchase and permanently froze his Paypal account.

These days they don't allow sales of digital codes but it's still a complete shit show for sellers.

covcity4life · Nov 21, 2019

i sold pokemon red on ebay and now i think was 15 quid worth it? maybe be worth loads one day

buying is much better, nothing like the rush of popping someone to post at final second

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