EFL Stadium Vote (1 Viewer)

Liquid Gold · Mar 22, 2019

shmmeee said:
The question is when do you decide there’s no other alternative. It’s a game of chicken and a groundshare is jumping out the way. Are we sure Wasps won’t blink? Then we’re at last resort. If not, we’re not.

Luckily we don't have to make that decision. I imagine the club already have somewhere lined up and playing that chicken with London Wasps now.

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2019

Nick said:
That's where option B comes in.

A stadium built and moved in within 3 years isn't viable but it needs actual action and plans to get it in motion if that's the plan.

Thats why I voted A. I have no faith that we’ll get a ground built in three years. It’s taken four and we haven’t even got a location yet.

Otis · Mar 22, 2019

shmmeee said:
I just can’t believe it. Sixfields wasnt 6 miles away. Where has this rule come from?

I’ve heard it for a new ground, but not a groundshare.

Okay, may be my mistake then.

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2019

Otis said:
But we all know a new stadium won't happen.

The only good I can see coming out of this is that it will devalue the club and then maybe the likes of Hoffman's bid will be accepted and Wasps will have us back.

We go 50 miles away the club is going to be worthless.

If you know a new ground won’t happen you’ve got to vote C surely?

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
Luckily we don't have to make that decision. I imagine the club already have somewhere lined up and playing that chicken with London Wasps now.

Well this thread is literally about us being asked to make a decision.

Otis · Mar 22, 2019

shmmeee said:
If you know a new ground won’t happen you’ve got to vote C surely?

Under Sisu it won't. I am certain of that.

Like I say, I CAN understand why some would vote C and hope for us to start again. All options are a bag of shite.

Grendel · Mar 22, 2019

Otis said:
Under Sisu it won't. I am certain of that.

Like I say, I CAN understand why some would vote C and hope for us to start again. All options are a bag of shite.

Brighton aren’t doing too badly are they?

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Otis said:
The only good I can see coming out of this is that it will devalue the club and then maybe the likes of Hoffman's bid will be accepted and Wasps will have us back.

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
Luckily we don't have to make that decision. I imagine the club already have somewhere lined up and playing that chicken with London Wasps now.

Exactly. They will know full well although I wasn't expecting 50 miles.

iFollow is looking more likely if that's the case.

Grendel · Mar 22, 2019

Otis said:
But we all know a new stadium won't happen.

The only good I can see coming out of this is that it will devalue the club and then maybe the likes of Hoffman's bid will be accepted and Wasps will have us back.

We go 50 miles away the club is going to be worthless.

Oh my God

6 Generations · Mar 22, 2019

‘None of the above’

Covstu · Mar 22, 2019

Its frustrating, SISU's last statement of the 2 required outcomes were not unreasonable i.e. make available land to build on (albeit I am unsure how much power CCC can have on this without a separate dispute elsewhere for preferential treatment) and Wasps talk until that is done. Sadly CCC then say do it the other way and drop legals prior to talking its insane! Its like two lovers on the phone 'you hang up', 'no you hang up!'.

Get SISU to make a downpayment of significant size for suitable land to commit them to this project then talk about the extension of the Ricoh. I think the truth is that we probably wont have a suitable site in Coventry available! Sick of it, its as dull and frustrating as Brexit but feels a lot more personal!!

usskyblue · Mar 22, 2019

shmmeee said:
Thats why I voted A. I have no faith that we’ll get a ground built in three years. It’s taken four and we haven’t even got a location yet.

There’s two things going on here...SISU’s bullshit ~ and, even if they do get serious about a stadium, the council being arseholes and finding loopholes to deny planning permission for every site identified.

Liquid Gold · Mar 22, 2019

shmmeee said:
Well this thread is literally about us being asked to make a decision.

Back to brexit it doesn't matter if 6 million of us sign the petition it matters what the people in the chair actually do.

Covstu · Mar 22, 2019

Nick said:
That's where option B comes in.

A stadium built and moved in within 3 years isn't viable but it needs actual action and plans to get it in motion if that's the plan.

It doesn't mean that the stadium will be ready in 3 years though does it, we could and will likely be in the same position in 3 years time

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Covstu said:
It doesn't mean that the stadium will be ready in 3 years though does it, we could and will likely be in the same position in 3 years time

That's where it comes in where they have to be actioning things and showing they are being actioned at every step.

Covstu · Mar 22, 2019

Nick said:
That's where it comes in where they have to be actioning things and showing they are being actioned at every step.

agree but I thought they had a deadline for a new stadium previously and that didn't happen. Is there land available to cater for a new stadium around Coventry? Certainly not in the centre!

ccfcway · Mar 22, 2019

all seems to be ponting to MK Dons stadium isnt it ?

Good train network, easy to get to on motorway and previous games where CCFC have played at MK have attracted very large CCFC followings.

Far from ideal, but the club will survive as it will live within its means.

Obviusly we will lose some fans along the way and not gain many new ones in the short term , but it will survive.

I dont think where we go is the issue, the issue for me is going full stop........what is going to change in next 3 years for us to come back ?

Legals will still be ongoing
sisu wont build a stadium
wasps may struggle financially ?

Its now down to a gamble on SISU winning a court case and leaving with the cash, or Wasps going bust and CCC begging for CCFC to come back and use an empty Rioch.

i wouldn't bet on either of those happening any time soon

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Covstu said:
agree but I thought they had a deadline for a new stadium previously and that didn't happen. Is there land available to cater for a new stadium around Coventry? Certainly not in the centre!

It's all things that need to be taken into consideration I guess. If it was the case it would all need to be documented and fed back at every step.

No waiting for 2 years before a company his hired to find land, for example.

Liquid Gold · Mar 22, 2019

God, it's exhausting being constantly pissed off/worried about everything.

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
God, it's exhausting being constantly pissed off/worried about everything.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Mar 22, 2019

To be fair maybe we just need to buy time until the legals are over - 3 years will probably just about be the end

Covstu · Mar 22, 2019

Nick said:
It's all things that need to be taken into consideration I guess. If it was the case it would all need to be documented and fed back at every step.

No waiting for 2 years before a company his hired to find land, for example.

I think this is where CCC need to step in and jointly plan this out. In reality CCC don't want another stadium on the city as they have two all ready so I think this is why they haven't been that accommodating in the past. CCC need to bite the bullet, look at this together and then SISU put down the required capital to secure the land and an intention to build a football stadium. For me the financial payment has to be committed for the council to move on this.

Covstu · Mar 22, 2019

ccfcway said:
all seems to be ponting to MK Dons stadium isnt it ?

Good train network, easy to get to on motorway and previous games where CCFC have played at MK have attracted very large CCFC followings.

Far from ideal, but the club will survive as it will live within its means.

Obviusly we will lose some fans along the way and not gain many new ones in the short term , but it will survive. I dont think where we go is the issue, the issue for me is going full stop........what is going to change in next 3 years for us to come back ?

Legals will still be ongoing
sisu wont build a stadium
wasps may struggle financially ?

Its now down to a gamble on SISU winning a court case and leaving with the cash, or Wasps going bust and CCC begging for CCFC to come back and use the Rioch.

Google maps says 50.4miles to stadium MK....... hmmmmmmmm

Otis · Mar 22, 2019

6 Generations said:
‘None of the above’

Yup. Has to be.

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Covstu said:
I think this is where CCC need to step in and jointly plan this out. In reality CCC don't want another stadium on the city as they have two all ready so I think this is why they haven't been that accommodating in the past. CCC need to bite the bullet, look at this together and then SISU put down the required capital to secure the land and an intention to build a football stadium. For me the financial payment has to be committed for the council to move on this.

If it was ever to happen, I don't think it would be a case of being able to put down loads of money up front to be used. They do need to discuss things properly and like grown ups though.

If CCC don't want another stadium in the city then it means looking elsewhere.

This is where it leaves the EFL in a rock hard place.

ccfcway · Mar 22, 2019

Covstu said:
Google maps says 50.4miles to stadium MK....... hmmmmmmmm

hedge fund disgarees with other hedge fund so leaves their home and is supported by club who moved their team away from their home.

Otis · Mar 22, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
God, it's exhausting being constantly pissed off/worried about everything.

Maybe it's just me, but I am completely chilled about it all.

While I admire campaigns and protests there is only so much we can do.

I can't fret about something such as this that I simply cannot control. Same with Brexit.

Was thinking about a joint campaign t-shirt that said 'Stay in Europe/Stay at the Ricoh, but then I thought nah. Waste of money.

torchomatic · Mar 22, 2019

chiefdave said:
While the other options would obviously be far from ideal surely only a complete idiot is going to vote to kill their own club.

David. Johnson.

Covstu · Mar 22, 2019

ccfcway said:
hedge fund disgarees with other hedge fund so leaves their home and is supported by club who moved their team away from their home.

time to invent the portable stadium!!

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Mar 22, 2019

Covstu said:
I think this is where CCC need to step in and jointly plan this out. In reality CCC don't want another stadium on the city as they have two all ready so I think this is why they haven't been that accommodating in the past. CCC need to bite the bullet, look at this together and then SISU put down the required capital to secure the land and an intention to build a football stadium. For me the financial payment has to be committed for the council to move on this.

Then they need to come out and say this. SISU or No SISU the club needs to know if their future is permanently hamstrung

MalcSB · Mar 22, 2019

usskyblue said:
There’s two things going on here...SISU’s bullshit ~ and, even if they do get serious about a stadium, the council being arseholes and finding loopholes to deny planning permission for every site identified.

Council don’t want a rival stadium to the ricoh

Nick · Mar 22, 2019

Covstu said:
time to invent the portable stadium!!

I think SBitC have that inflatable football pitch, just get a bigger version

Liquid Gold · Mar 22, 2019

Nick said:
I think SBitC have that inflatable football pitch, just get a bigger version

It's got Rugby posts. No deal.

Otis · Mar 22, 2019

MalcSB said:
Council don’t want a rival stadium to the ricoh

Yeah, it's a fair point.

Best scenario is Wasps fail and bugger off back down south.

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