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pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2023

Loads scattered about yesterday, especially in the JSB section which has supposedly been sold out all season.

I know it's Boxing Day and people can't always attend but I find it mental that so many people aren't turning up with their season tickets for games priced at £37. Week night games are understandable but there's always loads of empty seats in 'sold out' areas of the North and West Stand.

Are people scared of passing their season tickets to friends due to Doug clamping down on it?

@Sky Blue Pete lots are mentioned a sell back scheme. Is this something you can bring up with the club. Plenty were asking for tickets on Facebook and in WhatsApp groups yesterday and couldn't get them. They'd have paid £37 if people had released their ST seats. It seems we gave a general home admission capacity of about 23,000 and nearly fill that most games now.

clint van damme · Dec 27, 2023

pusbccfc said:
Loads scattered about yesterday, especially in the JSB section which has supposedly been sold out all season.

I know it's Boxing Day and people can't always attend but I find it mental that so many people aren't turning up with their season tickets for games priced at £37. Week night games are understandable but there's always loads of empty seats in 'sold out' areas of the North and West Stand.

Are people scared of passing their season tickets to friends due to Doug clamping down on it?

@Sky Blue Pete lots are mentioned a sell back scheme. Is this something you can bring up with the club. Plenty were asking for tickets on Facebook and in WhatsApp groups yesterday and couldn't get them. They'd have paid £37 if people had released their ST seats. It seems we gave a general home admission capacity of about 23,000 and nearly fill that most games now.

Between this season and last we've sold out 2 league games.
Not sure a sell back scheme is viable unless you're selling out a large proportion of your games.

ccfctommy · Dec 27, 2023

Yeah, was definitely not a sell out yesterday

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2023

clint van damme said:
Between this season and last we've sold out 2 league games.
Not sure a sell back scheme is viable unless you're selling out a large proportion of your games.

You may only need it 3/4 times a season but it's there.

I reckon we'd have sold another 1500 tickets at £37 yesterday. That's quite a lot.

MAFF · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave · Dec 27, 2023

Has there actually been a clampdown? They've made an effort to stop adults getting in on kids tickets which is fair enough but I havent' seen anything that would suggest if you lent your season ticket to your mate there would be an issue.

The family zone thing has been an issue all season, some games it seem barely half full, and more adults than kids. Not sure how you solve that problem but I certainly can't see that zone being expanded next season as some people have called for.

theferret · Dec 27, 2023

clint van damme said:
Between this season and last we've sold out 2 league games.
Not sure a sell back scheme is viable unless you're selling out a large proportion of your games.

Yeah, it will take promotion for that to become viable. Is frustrating though that the club couldn't sell any more tickets despite these being empty seats, and an awful lot of them in the JSB section.

Weirdly, there were also empty seats in blocks 4 and 5, which were opened up and fully sold. Who pays £37 and then doesn't turn up?

CV22SBA · Dec 27, 2023

Block 2 looked only half full aswell which was supposedly sold out. Loads of
Empty seats around 23/24/25.

David O'Day · Dec 27, 2023

MAFF said:

what are the issues? it can only be an issue with the roller shutters which can be easily replaced, the stand itself was designed to be able to hold 6000 and be split between teams at the same time

chiefdave · Dec 27, 2023

MAFF said:

Has anyone got the rest of that? Sounds like they're actively looking to do something about the south stand which is good news.

What is the issue with the balcony? I thought it was just that it was corporate and people stayed inside.

theferret · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
Has there actually been a clampdown? They've made an effort to stop adults getting in on kids tickets which is fair enough but I havent' seen anything that would suggest if you lent your season ticket to your mate there would be an issue.

The family zone thing has been an issue all season, some games it seem barely half full, and more adults than kids. Not sure how you solve that problem but I certainly can't see that zone being expanded next season as some people have called for.

I've seen people receive written warnings about passing STs on.

wingy · Dec 27, 2023

Kinda feels like organ donation to me !🫣

clint van damme · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
I havent' seen anything that would suggest if you lent your season ticket to your mate there would be an issue.

Officially you shouldn't do it, unofficially they're not bothered as long as it's adult to adult or child to child.

Edit - just seen Ferrets post so seems there has been issues with it.

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2023

theferret said:
Yeah, it will take promotion for that to become viable. Is frustrating though that the club couldn't sell any more tickets despite these being empty seats, and an awful lot of them in the JSB section.

Weirdly, there were also empty seats in blocks 4 and 5, which were opened up and fully sold. Who pays £37 and then doesn't turn up?

Aren't they where the players' family sit?

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2023

clint van damme said:
Officially you shouldn't do it, unofficially they're not bothered as long as it's adult to adult or child to child.

People have been getting letters from the club. I'm not sure if it's because of kids tickets.

Nick · Dec 27, 2023

I know a few people who were away over Christmas so missed it.

chiefdave · Dec 27, 2023

theferret said:
I've seen people receive written warnings about passing STs on.

how the fuck would anyone know? If an adult is going in on an adult ticket unless you're acting like a twat and get your ticket checked how would anyone know

I've never been asked for any form of ID to prove its me named on the season ticket

clint van damme · Dec 27, 2023

pusbccfc said:
People have been getting letters from the club. I'm not sure if it's because of kids tickets.

Yeah, edited my post after reading Ferrets post.

David O'Day · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
how the fuck would anyone know? If an adult is going in on an adult ticket unless you're acting like a twat and get your ticket checked how would anyone know

I've never been asked for any form of ID to prove its me named on the season ticket

the female steward by the steps at 15 calls me by my name these days as she has checked my ticket so much so it make be an issue in teh corner but you don't have your ticket checked anywhere else do you?

theferret · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
how the fuck would anyone know? If an adult is going in on an adult ticket unless you're acting like a twat and get your ticket checked how would anyone know

I've never been asked for any form of ID to prove its me named on the season ticket

Perhaps people are being caught going in on a concession ticket and it turns out this ticket has been passed on. Like you say, would be very difficult to police this.

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
Has anyone got the rest of that? Sounds like they're actively looking to do something about the south stand which is good news.

What is the issue with the balcony? I thought it was just that it was corporate and people stayed inside.

Problem is, they are attached to the lounges.

Ideally they could sell them at a premium price without the perks of an hospitality ticket.

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
how the fuck would anyone know? If an adult is going in on an adult ticket unless you're acting like a twat and get your ticket checked how would anyone know

I've never been asked for any form of ID to prove its me named on the season ticket

You'd be surprised at the intel they have on people.

theferret · Dec 27, 2023

pusbccfc said:
You'd be surprised at the intel they have on people.

Could also be that some people openly offer to pass on their tickets on Facebook under their own name. Seem that often.

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 27, 2023

pusbccfc said:
Loads scattered about yesterday, especially in the JSB section which has supposedly been sold out all season.

I know it's Boxing Day and people can't always attend but I find it mental that so many people aren't turning up with their season tickets for games priced at £37. Week night games are understandable but there's always loads of empty seats in 'sold out' areas of the North and West Stand.

Are people scared of passing their season tickets to friends due to Doug clamping down on it?

@Sky Blue Pete lots are mentioned a sell back scheme. Is this something you can bring up with the club. Plenty were asking for tickets on Facebook and in WhatsApp groups yesterday and couldn't get them. They'd have paid £37 if people had released their ST seats. It seems we gave a general home admission capacity of about 23,000 and nearly fill that most games now.

It’s been mentioned I’ll ask again

Frank Sidebottom · Dec 27, 2023

pusbccfc said:
Loads scattered about yesterday, especially in the JSB section which has supposedly been sold out all season.

I know it's Boxing Day and people can't always attend but I find it mental that so many people aren't turning up with their season tickets for games priced at £37. Week night games are understandable but there's always loads of empty seats in 'sold out' areas of the North and West Stand.

Are people scared of passing their season tickets to friends due to Doug clamping down on it?

@Sky Blue Pete lots are mentioned a sell back scheme. Is this something you can bring up with the club. Plenty were asking for tickets on Facebook and in WhatsApp groups yesterday and couldn't get them. They'd have paid £37 if people had released their ST seats. It seems we gave a general home admission capacity of about 23,000 and nearly fill that most games now.

A sell back scheme won't work unless the game is sold out a few weeks in advance.... we're not quite there yet. But would be a nice bonus earner for the club if they buy back an ST seat pro rata for about £20 and can then sell it on again for £37. But realistically it's not going to happen unless we're in the Prem and/or selling out weeks in advance most weeks.

Flying Fokker · Dec 27, 2023

pusbccfc said:
Loads scattered about yesterday, especially in the JSB section which has supposedly been sold out all season.

I know it's Boxing Day and people can't always attend but I find it mental that so many people aren't turning up with their season tickets for games priced at £37. Week night games are understandable but there's always loads of empty seats in 'sold out' areas of the North and West Stand.

Are people scared of passing their season tickets to friends due to Doug clamping down on it?

@Sky Blue Pete lots are mentioned a sell back scheme. Is this something you can bring up with the club. Plenty were asking for tickets on Facebook and in WhatsApp groups yesterday and couldn't get them. They'd have paid £37 if people had released their ST seats. It seems we gave a general home admission capacity of about 23,000 and nearly fill that most games now.

It’s more important to be with family?

chiefdave · Dec 27, 2023

David O'Day said:
the female steward by the steps at 15 calls me by my name these days as she has checked my ticket so much so it make be an issue in teh corner but you don't have your ticket checked anywhere else do you?

maybe its just in that corner. we don't even have the same steward every game where I am let alone them knowing peoples names and not once have I even been asked to show I have a ticket let alone that I'm in the right block and prove my name

pusbccfc said:
You'd be surprised at the intel they have on people.

they aren't going to be very excited with any intel on me. Turns up 30 minutes before kick off and buys a cup of tea at half time

chiefdave · Dec 27, 2023

Frank Sidebottom said:
A sell back scheme won't work unless the game is sold out a few weeks in advance.... we're not quite there yet. But would be a nice bonus earner for the club if they buy back an ST seat pro rata for about £20 and can then sell it on again for £37. But realistically it's not going to happen unless we're in the Prem and/or selling out weeks in advance most weeks.

potentially more trouble than its worth. we all know that unless people selling their ticket got 100% of the matchday ticket price they'd kick off about being ripped off by the club when in reality at best you'd get a percentage back and have to pay fees to whatever service we used to facilitate the resale.

theferret · Dec 27, 2023

Flying Fokker said:
It’s more important to be with family?

I think it's the number that is surprising. Will always be missing ST holders, but Preston sold out yesterday and it looked like one. Also, the East Stand side of the ground there were very few empty seats.

Flying Fokker · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
Has there actually been a clampdown? They've made an effort to stop adults getting in on kids tickets which is fair enough but I havent' seen anything that would suggest if you lent your season ticket to your mate there would be an issue.

The family zone thing has been an issue all season, some games it seem barely half full, and more adults than kids. Not sure how you solve that problem but I certainly can't see that zone being expanded next season as some people have called for.

theferret said:
Could also be that some people openly offer to pass on their tickets on Facebook under their own name. Seem that often.

This passing on tickets should be allowed. It increases the likelihood of people paying at some point and fosters good relations between season ticket holders and their mates. Also the ticket is paid for anyway. Pie and a pint as well.

theferret · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
potentially more trouble than its worth. we all know that unless people selling their ticket got 100% of the matchday ticket price they'd kick off about being ripped off by the club when in reality at best you'd get a percentage back and have to pay fees to whatever service we used to facilitate the resale.

Works well in grounds sold out every week. Everyone wins. The seat gets used. The ST holder gets back the pro-rata value of the game and the club generates extra revenue by selling on the seat at full price. Needs to be regular sell out for it to be worthwhile though.

wingy · Dec 27, 2023

chiefdave said:
maybe its just in that corner. we don't even have the same steward every game where I am let alone them knowing peoples names and not once have I even been asked to show I have a ticket let alone that I'm in the right block and prove my name

they aren't going to be very excited with any intel on me. Turns up 30 minutes before kick off and buys a cup of tea at half time

Goes for a leak at least once,has a couple of cans out the Christmas bonus pack of 1664 !

Frank Sidebottom · Dec 27, 2023

theferret said:
I think it's the number that is surprising. Will always be missing ST holders, but Preston sold out yesterday and it looked like one. Also, the East Stand side of the ground there were very few empty seats.

That's the Northerners attitude though 'I've fucking paid for it, So I'm fucking going'.

SkyBlueSoul · Dec 27, 2023

I've brought numerous mates/my Mum into block 16 on a mate's ST this year because he can't make many games and never had a problem. Obviously it's for the same block and it's an adult one so there's no issue with the turnstile/steps checks.

wingy · Dec 27, 2023

Oh blimey st holder gets all the benefits, I just don't get it tbh.

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