England approach Roy Hodgson (1 Viewer)

rob9872 · Apr 29, 2012

I think the deal was sanctioned by Comoli (sp?) who has recently left. I also didn't hear too many calling him an over-priced donkey at the time, but a raw 21 year old talent. It hasn't worked out perfectly but he still may come good. Who else were his options with four hours of the transfer window remaining? Can you imagine the uproar if a club like Liverpool sell their top striker on deadline day, have £50m in the coffers and don't reinvest a good amount of it? I also think Downng is decent and we've all seen Hendersen close enough at City to know what potential he has. I'm starting tosound like a fan of theirs which tbh couldn't be further from the truth, but yo have such a skewed balance to your argument that started off with a false claim that RH was a good apppointment because his record was better than Kenny's ... which it isn't. PRobably best to admit you made a mistake and move on

Marty · Apr 29, 2012

Tad said:
I don't think it really matters who we have as the manager. We simply don't develop or use enough Brits in the top flight to compete on the international stage. We'll probably get just get past the group stages or lose in them. Think that's pretty good for us and where the team are at the moment.

Wish we could have an import quota or a minimum Brits on field quota in the Premier league. It would benefit the international team greatly.

Agree, but no doubt be against some EU law or be called racist by the left.

rob9872 · Apr 29, 2012

Not racist - the rule is already in place. At least 8 of your 25 man squad must be 'home grown'

Marty · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
I think the deal was sanctioned by Comoli (sp?) who has recently left. I also didn't hear too many calling him an over-priced donkey at the time, but a raw 21 year old talent. It hasn't worked out perfectly but he still may come good. Who else were his options with four hours of the transfer window remaining? Can you imagine the uproar if a club like Liverpool sell their top striker on deadline day, have £50m in the coffers and don't reinvest a good amount of it? I also think Downng is decent and we've all seen Hendersen close enough at City to know what potential he has. I'm starting tosound like a fan of theirs which tbh couldn't be further from the truth, but yo have such a skewed balance to your argument that started off with a false claim that RH was a good apppointment because his record was better than Kenny's ... which it isn't. PRobably best to admit you made a mistake and move on

I never said he was a good appointment because his record is better, Someone posted saying look how great he was at liverpool, then i put something like he has a better record then kenny, (i was wrong) but the difference isn't a lot, over 100 games it's 7 wins/losses different.

I have no idea who comoli is? but yeah he is an over rated over priced donkey, half a good season in the prem now means you're a great talent and can play for England although you have been shit for over a year. Carroll is worth 7 mill at most, Downing 10 mill, Henderson 7 mill.

Marty · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
Not racist - the rule is already in place. At least 8 of your 25 man squad must be 'home grown'

'Home grown' and British are completely different.

rob9872 · Apr 29, 2012

Marty said:
(i was wrong)

That's better

rob9872 · Apr 29, 2012

Marty said:
'Home grown' and British are completely different.

I know. That would be why I used the official term rather than "British"

Tad · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
Not racist - the rule is already in place. At least 8 of your 25 man squad must be 'home grown'

Problem is though, they can be in the squad but that doesn't mean they have to, or will be, played. Sitting in the stands does no good to a player. They could always bring a rule in that says you have to field 5 of your 11 playing team with Brits.

Paxman II · Apr 29, 2012

beduth said:
What i mean by embarrasment , was the that he lied through his teeth in the High Court , he`s a typical Cockney Wide Boy .(couldn`t lie straight in bed ).

I know Harry and this along with your other post is offensive.
very odd when people start saying things about others and yet don't even know the person they are speaking of. :facepalm:

rob9872 · Apr 29, 2012

Why Brits though? How do paddy's taffs and jocks playing help the English team? We're in the EU so to me a jock is no different to someone from France, psain or portugal playing.

Marty · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
Why Brits though? How do paddy's taffs and jocks playing help the English team? We're in the EU so to me a jock is no different to someone from France, psain or portugal playing.

If i had it my way it would be English only, but i guess we'd have to include the jocks & welsh.

Tad · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
Why Brits though? How do paddy's taffs and jocks playing help the English team? We're in the EU so to me a jock is no different to someone from France, psain or portugal playing.

Sorry, I meant English players.

Houchens Head · Apr 29, 2012

Marty said:
I never said he was a good appointment because his record is better, Someone posted saying look how great he was at liverpool, then i put something like he has a better record then kenny, (i was wrong) but the difference isn't a lot, over 100 games it's 7 wins/losses different.

Marty, YOU were the first person to mention Dalglish! Look at post #21. I said (sarcastically) "look at how well he (Hodgson) had done at Liverpool". YOU were the one that started harping on about Kenny Dalglish. You've lost the plot mate!

Skyblue4u · Apr 29, 2012

Roy Hodson - England Manager

On TV now ffs

Might as well be Thorn what are the FA thinking??

rob9872 · Apr 29, 2012

Really? Great appointment. Better than Kenny

Marty · Apr 29, 2012

Houchens Head said:
Marty, YOU were the first person to mention Dalglish! Look at post #21. I said (sarcastically) "look at how well he (Hodgson) had done at Liverpool". YOU were the one that started harping on about Kenny Dalglish. You've lost the plot mate!

wtf are you on about?? I never said I didn't mention him. I also never said that he should be appointed because his record is better then Kenny. Maybe you should put your glasses on you silly old fool.

torchomatic · Apr 29, 2012

Who cares?

Houchens Head · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
Really? Great appointment. Better than Kenny

Don't you bloody well start again!!! :slap:

KarmicChris · Apr 29, 2012

Did wonders with Fulham and to make West Brom the team that they are today isn't easy. Don't think they've ever looked in danger of going down, when was the last tiem you could say that about West Brom?

I don't think it's the worst choice in the world to be honest.

thorninmyside · Apr 29, 2012

Redknapp must have refused it then.

city-since-1995 · Apr 29, 2012

I would slap David whats-his-face in the face if hodgson got the job. Anyone fancy Ian Dowie for the job?

Grendel · Apr 29, 2012

rob9872 said:
Kenny has a win rate at Liverpool this spell of 48.57 (first time 60.87)
Roy's was 41.94
Kenny has also won silverware and may do so again next week

How exactly is that better?

RH despite being dull can not even back it up with major trophies. He has only ever won in Sweden and Denmark which tbf is probably on par with the SPL

Hodgsons win ratio is marginally better than Redknaps and fairly consistent over most clubs. 50% win ratio for Switzerland. He has advantages including knowledge of how competitions like this evolve and what they involve. He reacts well under pressure from the media and is regarded as a top coach who will intergrate well into the set-up at Burton. Even locality will help. Redknap will not move from Sandbanks and you cannot see him intergrating fully into the Burton set up which Hodgson will at all levels.

illphil80 · Apr 29, 2012

A far better choice than Redknapp. Would have all ended in Keegan crapness. Redknapp was never approached and is apparently surprised so don't think he turned it down. Redknapp always needed money and tonnes of transfers to do a good job. Hodgson has always took what he had and made it better. Liverpool is the only blip and that has proved to be not so bad considering how they've got worse if anything since he left. Given more time I think he'd have them in a better position than currently. Think the Fa have done a good job not just goin for the popular option.

illphil80 · Apr 29, 2012

The England job isn't about buying talent its about moulding what you have and I think Hodgson experience of varous international football and in other leagues only builds on this tactically.

Colonel Mustard · Apr 29, 2012

Good choice.

skybluereeve · Apr 29, 2012

Dyer manager

AFCCOVENTRY · Apr 29, 2012

good appointment.

all of his jobs were on the continent before managing in england and Swiss manager.

very wise choice. Redknapp would not have been the answer.

Gaz · Apr 29, 2012

Good call by the FA, imo.

I am surprised like everyone else that they havn't gone to Harry first, but I do think its important for us to have an English manager at least.
I have confidence in him for sure.

ccfc91 · Apr 29, 2012

illphil80 said:
A far better choice than Redknapp. Would have all ended in Keegan crapness. Redknapp was never approached and is apparently surprised so don't think he turned it down. Redknapp always needed money and tonnes of transfers to do a good job. Hodgson has always took what he had and made it better. Liverpool is the only blip and that has proved to be not so bad considering how they've got worse if anything since he left. Given more time I think he'd have them in a better position than currently. Think the Fa have done a good job not just goin for the popular option.

Agreed. I also think Harry is too friendly with a lot of the old guard; dont think he handles youth too well either. Although Hodgson doesn't fill me full of promise, struggled to handle high profile players and the media at Liverpool and it'll be worse with England. Better tactically than Redknapp though. Best of a bad bunch?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 29, 2012

Terrible decision for me, Hodgsons defensive style of play is suited for smaller clubs/nations.

Bobby Firenze · Apr 29, 2012

CCFC said:
Terrible decision for me, Hodgsons defensive style of play is suited for smaller clubs/nations.

Based on what? 'Failing' at Liverpool yet still doing better than Kenny?

Perryccfc · Apr 29, 2012

What worries me is west brom now gonna be looking for a new manager. Please don't take thorn!!!!

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 29, 2012

Bobby Firenze said:
Based on what? 'Failing' at Liverpool yet still doing better than Kenny?

Hodgson record at Liverpool 42% win
Dalglish record at Liverpool (2nd spell) 48.5 % win + 2 cup finals, Liverpool have hit the post 30 times this season the most in the league and 9 more times than the next closest team and they have missed the joint most penalties. If you watch the games you will see Liverpool under Dalglish are 10x the team they were under Hodgson, add a goalscorer to help Suarez out and Liverpool will be pushing for the european places again.

No doubt Hodgson has done well at Fulham and West Brom but his teams are largely boring to watch, he is just England's better version of Alex Mcleish.

Big Mo · Apr 29, 2012

And dalglish only had to spend 100m to get them to midtable, fabulous job he's done

Bobby Firenze · Apr 29, 2012

CCFC said:
Hodgson record at Liverpool 42% win
Dalglish record at Liverpool (2nd spell) 48.5 % win + 2 cup finals, Liverpool have hit the post 30 times this season the most in the league and 9 more times than the next closest team and they have missed the joint most penalties. If you watch the games you will see Liverpool under Dalglish are 10x the team they were under Hodgson, add a goalscorer to help Suarez out and Liverpool will be pushing for the european places again.

No doubt Hodgson has done well at Fulham and West Brom but his teams are largely boring to watch, he is just England's better version of Alex Mcleish.

Hodgson got 6 months and a fraction of King Kenny's budget.

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