England is fast becoming a shit hole (2 Viewers)

Evo1883 · Aug 24, 2020

Why is it happening?

Couple 0f people chasing each other with axes and knives in tile hill yesterday and the area that I live in got me thinking
Rubbish everywhere, nobody appears to give 2 shits anymore about the state of their property especially from the outside...

Poorly behaved children

Drugs, guns, knives

There's obviously a multitude of reasons socially and economically but I can't stand the direction the country is going

Worrying really

fernandopartridge · Aug 24, 2020

Following the American lead gets American outcomes.

Evo1883 · Aug 24, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Following the American lead gets American outcomes.

Was talking to dad and we feel like over time the people who could afford their properties have done so leading to better areas and people less well off have been forced together which has created almost ghetto like feels to council estates (I live in one)

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Aug 24, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Was talking to dad and we feel like over time the people who could afford their properties have done so leading to better areas and people less well off have been forced together which has created almost ghetto like feels to council estates (I live in one)

And to compound matters big builders are building awful estates where parking is terrible, gardens are tiny and they're not putting amenities nearby. Within 10 years the estate looks tired and run down because no one really wants to be there. Lego houses.
You know the sort of estate I mean. They look the same whether they're in Luton, Bristol or Newcastle.
Mind you it doesn't excuse gun and knife crime at all.

fernandopartridge · Aug 24, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Was talking to dad and we feel like over time the people who could afford their properties have done so leading to better areas and people less well off have been forced together which has created almost ghetto like feels to council estates (I live in one)

Yeah, definitely how it went on my estate. Estates as originally envisaged were for everybody regardless of means. Then at a point in time they decided that it was only for the most needy and the Right to Buy came in.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Aug 24, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Was talking to dad and we feel like over time the people who could afford their properties have done so leading to better areas and people less well off have been forced together which has created almost ghetto like feels to council estates (I live in one)

That exactly what parts of London in particular are like.
I think the rental market boom has made matters worse as well.

chiefdave · Aug 24, 2020

Obviously socio-economic factors play a massive part in this. However I also find in this country there's a 'nothing you can do about it' or 'its the same everywhere' attitude. Other countries don't seem to have the same approach.

fernandopartridge · Aug 24, 2020

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
That exactly what parts of London in particular are like.
I think the rental market boom has made matters worse as well.

Yeah houses fall into the hands of unscrupulous landlords who let to anybody

clint van damme · Aug 24, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Was talking to dad and we feel like over time the people who could afford their properties have done so leading to better areas and people less well off have been forced together which has created almost ghetto like feels to council estates (I live in one)

Probably something in that but I live in a street with no council properties and there are people who've really neglected their houses even though they own them.
To go a little off topic, you go to somewhere like Glastonbury and the state of it on a Monday morning is horrendous. I've had little rich kids camped next to me who've left a disgusting mess. I always clean up after myself.

Look at the scenes from Dorset during lock down, I'd imagine that was a cross section of society but they all left a trail of filth, it pisses me off.

pastythegreat · Aug 24, 2020

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
And to compound matters big builders are building awful estates where parking is terrible, gardens are tiny and they're not putting amenities nearby. Within 10 years the estate looks tired and run down because no one really wants to be there. Lego houses.
You know the sort of estate I mean. They look the same whether they're in Luton, Bristol or Newcastle.
Mind you it doesn't excuse gun and knife crime at all.

Not helped by 90% of the estate being snapped up by landlords who do little to the property and just rent it out at maximum profit.

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chiefdave · Aug 24, 2020

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I think the rental market boom has made matters worse as well.

Agree with this. I live in Finham which is hardly the ghetto but its noticeably changed in the last 30 years. Back then virtually all houses were owner occupied and people took pride in maintaining their property. These days a decent percentage is rental and people don't take the same care. Not surprising as landlords can't be bothered to do basic maintenance.

Walls and fences on the verge of collapse, or already collapsed and just left; overgrown gardens etc. As I say hardly the ghetto and doesn't compare to other areas of the city but just shows how people have no pride in the area they live in anymore.

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 25, 2020

Inequality is the main cause

covcity4life · Aug 31, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Following the American lead gets American outcomes.

Americans dont litter! Roads are so clean

Never understood why we treat our own country like shit

Need strict laws on literring and anti social behaviour

Make neighbourhoods great again!!!

Get strict on gangs even if they are young

Educate kids so not shagging around at 13

Good old fashioned morals needed!

hill83 · Aug 31, 2020

covcity4life said:
Americans dont litter! Roads are so clean

Zoomed into a random town and went on street view at random. This is the first image I came across. You are wrong I win.

Apologise.

Click this link

Houchens Head · Aug 31, 2020

I can't help feeling that all this type of behaviour started to get worse when corporal punishment was banned in schools, the police aren't allowed to clip you round the ear, parents aren't allowed to chastise their own kids anymore. Threaten your cheeky kid with a clip round the ear, they'll return the threat to get you arrested for assault!
Bring back the birch!! It's gone too far!

wingy · Aug 31, 2020

hill83 said:
Zoomed into a random town and went on street view at random. This is the first image I came across. You are wrong I win.

Apologise.

Click this link

Telegraph poles FFS.

hill83 · Aug 31, 2020

wingy said:
Telegraph poles FFS.

Ha ha, didn't work properly. Look at the ground.

Rubbish. covcity4life is a fraud.

Houchens Head · Aug 31, 2020

hill83 said:
Zoomed into a random town and went on street view at random. This is the first image I came across. You are wrong I win.

Apologise.

Click this link

I had a look at your random street view and zoomed in to one of a few small signs on the verge. "Do not park. Street cleaning on Tuesdays!"
.

hill83 · Aug 31, 2020

Must be monday there then. Surprised they need it though as they don't litter over there.

pastythegreat · Aug 31, 2020

Houchens Head said:
I can't help feeling that all this type of behaviour started to get worse when corporal punishment was banned in schools, the police aren't allowed to clip you round the ear, parents aren't allowed to chastise their own kids anymore. Threaten your cheeky kid with a clip round the ear, they'll return the threat to get you arrested for assault!
Bring back the birch!! It's gone too far!

I've said for years National Service should be bought back. Teach the little cunts a bit of respect.
All the teenagers and early 20 somethings that bowl around Tile Hill like they're above everyone and everything. In their "gangs" thinking they're Sicilian fuckong Mafia members. Get any single one of them alone and theyd fucking crumble. Put them (alone) amongst a platoon of squaddies and i garuntee theyd soon learn a bit of respect.

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hill83 · Aug 31, 2020

Most of it just needs good parenting. Even at my lads age (5) you can tell who the pricks are in his year.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Aug 31, 2020

covcity4life said:
Americans dont litter! Roads are so clean

Never understood why we treat our own country like shit

Need strict laws on literring and anti social behaviour

Make neighbourhoods great again!!!

Get strict on gangs even if they are young

Educate kids so not shagging around at 13

Good old fashioned morals needed!

Teenage pregnancy rates are at the lowest they've been in ages and are still falling.
American's do litter, esp in the big cities. But they do have more people going around picking up litter than we do.
If you want to make neighbourhoods great again you need to reduce the amount of houses bought by people intending to rent them out. People don't care or interact with their local area if they're not certain they'll be there long term.

wingy · Aug 31, 2020

11 Hochstädter Str.

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Random street in Berlin.

Houchens Head · Aug 31, 2020

This is what worries me more than most litter....
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hill83 · Aug 31, 2020

wingy said:
11 Hochstädter Str.

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Random street in Berlin.

Disgusting.

Side note, I went to Berlin a few years back and the whole place absolutely stinks of shit.

wingy · Aug 31, 2020

These are pretty common.

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wingy · Aug 31, 2020

hill83 said:
Disgusting.

Side note, I went to Berlin a few years back and the whole place absolutely stinks of shit.

Didn't notice when I was there about 20yrs ago

The Paris metro however .

hill83 · Aug 31, 2020

I mentioned this before with the litter side of things. When I lived in Wyken (it was Stoke really but Wyken if you are selling your house) there was litter everywhere and I didn't see a street cleaner once in 3 years. I live in eastern green now and we have one every few of weeks.
Same council tax rate.

wingy · Aug 31, 2020

We have one weekly now and street warden patrol's since I made a call 18 months ago about litter and street drinker's .
The wardens kind of tailed off but the sweeper follows after the bins normally.

covcity4life · Aug 31, 2020

Yeah when i went America and Canada all facilities are so well looked after . Parks are pristine . Here a new park will be defaced within weeks and beckme a anti social area

@Houchens Head is correct we need to isbtill fear in people again. If not fear of god then fear of the law

It is becoming a scary place out there

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 31, 2020

covcity4life said:
Yeah when i went America and Canada all facilities are so well looked after . Parks are pristine . Here a new park will be defaced within weeks and beckme a anti social area

@Houchens Head is correct we need to isbtill fear in people again. If not fear of god then fear of the law

It is becoming a scary place out there

We got burgled at our old place in Cov when we were in the house. Someone just opened the front door and helped themselves to some stuff in the lounge which they then chucked in someone‘s garden after rummaging through. We were upstairs but it did have me scared thinking how they’d react to being caught in the process

clint van damme · Aug 31, 2020

covcity4life said:
Yeah when i went America and Canada all facilities are so well looked after . Parks are pristine . Here a new park will be defaced within weeks and beckme a anti social area

@Houchens Head is correct we need to isbtill fear in people again. If not fear of god then fear of the law

It is becoming a scary place out there

if only we'd had a political party who model themselves as the party of law and order in place for 10 years I'm sure they'd have sorted it.

covcity4life · Aug 31, 2020

It is not going to get any better

Social media is stripping away everyone's empathy more and more day by day

wingy · Aug 31, 2020

covcity4life said:
It is not going to get any better

Social media is stripping away everyone's empathy more and more day by day

As was said.
There is no society .

clint van damme · Aug 31, 2020

covcity4life said:
It is not going to get any better

Social media is stripping away everyone's empathy more and more day by day

I don't agree with that to be honest, I just think that the cruelty you see stays with you more than the positive stuff.
And on social media you can see 1000s of interactions in a short space of time, much more than you do in normal everyday life. It's still enough to piss you right off though I agree.

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