Yeah, but it looks like he has improved significantly.Joe Gomez. Aways been shit every time I have seen him.
I remember when Klopp was moaning about him not being picked for England, whilst not even picking him for Liverpool
Yeah, but it looks like he has improved significantly.
Remember when John Stones was shit?
You must not have watched him this year thenI don't think he has improved significantly.
You must not have watched him this year then
Which other holding midfielders would you pick? I assume the squad - if not the first XI - will need more than one.Henderson!!! Fucking hell he must have some horrible blackmail against Southgate
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i'd rather pick Mainoo who is likely to have a long term place in the squad than Henderson who should not be anywhere near itWhich other holding midfielders would you pick? I assume the squad - if not the first XI - will need more than one.
Why? He is clearly not good enough anymore.We’re not exactly swimming in defence/midfield options are we - seems fairly obvious that Henderson will start at the Euros at this point.
i'd rather pick Mainoo who is likely to have a long term place in the squad than Henderson who should not be anywhere near it
So you leave out one of the most experienced and respected members of the squad for a player with about a dozen career games at senior level who’s never even been in an England squad before?Why? He is clearly not good enough anymore.
Mainoo is already a far better player and who cares how many games he has played? He's better than someone who is now no longer good enough.
No, you leave out someone who is clearly not good enough to be in the team anymore. If a player isn't good enough why should he be picked for the team? Do you know more than Ian Wright? Alan Shearer? Linaker?So you leave out one of the most experienced and respected members of the squad for a player with about a dozen career games at senior level who’s never even been in an England squad before?
It’s not going to happen. It’s been the fashionable thing to bash Henderson for a while now, and if he’d stayed in Saudi then I probably wouldn’t have picked him. But he clearly has something to offer the squad in a position where we’re incredibly thin - as evidenced by the best alternative option (which changes every other month, I should add) currently being a total novice.
You pick a squad that includes leaders and lieutenants who the manager trusts to impose a bit of order and stability on a notoriously high-pressure environment. You can just pick a squad that’s an ever-spinning carousel of flavour-of-the-month players, with no concern for how they’ll actually handle the pressure cooker of a major tournament - lord knows plenty of England managers have tried that before - but Southgate clearly has other considerations in mind.No, you leave out someone who is clearly not good enough to be in the team anymore. If a player isn't good enough why should he be picked for the team? Do you know more than Ian Wright? Alan Shearer? Linaker?
You pick the best players available not someone because you like him as person?
Holland is not a good level. Ajax just got pumped 4-0 by Villa ffs. Hes played half a dozen games there if that.You pick a squad that includes leaders and lieutenants who the manager trusts to impose a bit of order and stability on a notoriously high-pressure environment. You can just pick a squad that’s an ever-spinning carousel of flavour-of-the-month players, with no concern for how they’ll actually handle the pressure cooker of a major tournament - lord knows plenty of England managers have tried that before - but Southgate clearly has other considerations in mind.
Henderson has no obvious successor, is still playing regularly at a good level, and has the respect of his teammates. I would love to be able to play someone else there alongside Rice, but he honestly makes the most sense to me right now.
Also, Wright and Shearer? Really?
Would you say the same about Portugal? The Dutch league is ranked higher.Holland is not a good level. Ajax just got pumped 4-0 by Villa ffs. Hes played half a dozen games there if that.
Are we saying that a midfield who plays in Portugal should be picked instead of him? I must of missed that.Would you say the same about Portugal? The Dutch league is ranked higher.
Both strike me as a perfectly acceptable standard for a player with ambitions to be at the Euros.
No, I’m saying the Dutch league is a decent standard of football for picking international players. I don’t hear much criticism of the (supposedly inferior) Portuguese league when we’re all fawning over Vik, so not sure why playing in the Eredevisie precludes anyone from selection for us.Are we saying that a midfield who plays in Portugal should be picked instead of him? I must of missed that.
What we are saying is you can't keep picking someone who has played a "handful" of games badly for an awful Ajax team.
He simply isn't good enough anymore and shouldn't be in the squad anymore but Southgate says he picks on form and then plays favourites.
Phillips strangely probably deserves to play more as they are both in equally bad form yet Phillips does it in a stronger league.
Oh well if you want to be utterly clueless then so be it.
Would you say the same about Portugal? The Dutch league is ranked higher.
Both strike me as a perfectly acceptable standard for a player with ambitions to be at the Euros.
Are there many players from the Eredivisie going to the Euros? It’s obviously not a league I watch very often…I respect your points about Henderson generally, but the Dutch league is absolutely shit. There are some big clubs that sound decent but the standard, particularly in the last couple of seasons has been really poor. The Villa score against Ajax was exactly what I expected in all honesty.
James Ward-Prowse, and he's also one of the best set piece takers in the PremWhich other holding midfielders would you pick? I assume the squad - if not the first XI - will need more than one.
Ward-Prowse, a holding midfielder?James Ward-Prowse, and he's also one of the best set piece takers in the Prem
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He's played in that position before for West Ham and Southampton, albeit not recently since Phillips has joinedWard-Prowse, a holding midfielder?
I think West Ham spending a small fortune to replace him at that position with Phillips (who has been awful and likely played himself out of contention) tells you that he’s not a credible solution there.He's played in that position before for West Ham and Southampton, albeit not recently since Phillips has joined
Rather him than Henderson IMO
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Are there many players from the Eredivisie going to the Euros? It’s obviously not a league I watch very often…
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