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torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

Nothing in the Telegraph this morning. How strange.

Well, I think it scotches a few rumours regarding the shenanigans from both sides. We do now know it definitely WAS Anne Lucas who used the infamous "hell freezing over" comment.

It's no surprise they did a deal with Wasps as there was no way the Council were going to sell to the City's own football club.

Grendel · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
Nothing in the Telegraph this morning. How strange.

Well, I think it scotches a few rumours regarding the shenanigans from both sides. We do now know it definitely WAS Anne Lucas who used the infamous "hell freezing over" comment.

It's no surprise they did a deal with Wasps as there was no way the Council were going to sell to the City's own football club.

Strange how quiet this thread is - thought fans would be all over it.

Instead I'm sure "what's done is done lets just move on" will be the favoured slogan.

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

Captain Dart said:
You also posted a link to Reids article, which (in its headline) calls the council report a 'flawed' and 'whitewash', so no bias there :thinking about:

Doesn't the headline use them as quotes?

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
Nothing in the Telegraph this morning. How strange.

Well, I think it scotches a few rumours regarding the shenanigans from both sides. We do now know it definitely WAS Anne Lucas who used the infamous "hell freezing over" comment.

It's no surprise they did a deal with Wasps as there was no way the Council were going to sell to the City's own football club.

There is this now - http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/live-coventry-council-ethics-committee-10523158

torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

Ah yes, thanks, Nick.

I think the headline "Ha, Ha The Council Got One Over On You SISU Bastards" is a little strange though.

Nick said:
There is this now - http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/live-coventry-council-ethics-committee-10523158

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

Grendel said:
Strange how quiet this thread is - thought fans would be all over it.

Instead I'm sure "what's done is done lets just move on" will be the favoured slogan.

It will be busy later after the council say the council did nothing wrong and it is all put down to SISU trying to ruin the team's good form or something.

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
Ah yes, thanks, Nick.

I think the headline "Ha, Ha The Council Got One Over On You SISU Bastards" is a little strange though.

Where's that?

torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

It was a joke. Sorry, I'm rubbish at jokes.

Nick said:
Where's that?

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
It was a joke. Sorry, I'm rubbish at jokes.

It is Monday, it is early!!

Will be interesting to see if any of the evidence is reported or not.

lifeskyblue · Nov 30, 2015

Grendel said:
Strange how quiet this thread is - thought fans would be all over it.

Instead I'm sure "what's done is done lets just move on" will be the favoured slogan.

I don't pretend to know the 'ins' and 'outs' of this and therefore those with far greater knowledge or any entrenched view (either side) will quickly shoot me down but In my opinion all sides have badly let down the people of Coventry, the football club and the fans.
I haven't lived in cov for 37years but am still a season ticket holder. Therefore some parts of the debate affect me more/less than others.
At some point Grendel all will have to move on...a definitive court ruling where there is no further appeal or one side realising carrying on the fight means you lose more than you can ever potentially gain etc.

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torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

Similarly, the NOPMers should "move on", turn up and cheer the team they apparently support.

lifeskyblue said:
At some point Grendel all will have to move on...a definitive court ruling where there is no further appeal or one side realising carrying on the fight means you lose more than you can ever potentially gain etc.

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lifeskyblue · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
Similarly, the NOPMers should "move on", turn up and cheer the team they apparently support.

I agree. The problem all round is bridges have been burnt and continue to be burnt. Entrenched positions are difficult to walk away from but all sides and some point must otherwise this situation will remain as confused, muddied and destructive as it has been

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martcov · Nov 30, 2015

It is a clash of "profiles". Joy " majored in real estate " and Mutton " majored on a real estate ".

DazzleTommyDazzle · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
Similarly, the NOPMers should "move on", turn up and cheer the team they apparently support.

Given the attendances this season vs the attendances at Sixfields, I'd have thought that most have.

eastwoodsdustman · Nov 30, 2015

Simon? SIMON? SIIIMMMON?? where are you?

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

Additional documents Sisu want to submit amount to “probably 20 sheets of paper” according to Ms Morris.These additional documents could disrupt the flow of the meeting, because they are not public and the committee might have to go into private session. Ms Morris says they are documents that have been referred to in open court already.
Coun Clifford says he’s reluctant to go into private, bu tis advised that’s the correct procedure. The committee needs to see the documents before the session progresses.
Committee had adjourned. We have to clear the room.

torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

LOL, etc etc

He said: “I want to be fair to all parties about this.”
He says to Sisu reps: “I don’t want you to leave here today, whatever the decision is, feeling you’ve been unfairly treated.”

Skyblueweeman · Nov 30, 2015

Nick said:
Where's that?

Jesus Christ Nick...you didn't think that was a real headline did you?!

olderskyblue · Nov 30, 2015

He says to Sisu reps: “I don’t want you to leave here today, whatever the decision is, feeling you’ve been unfairly treated.”

Translates as "you will be unfairly treated" ??

oops, just seen torch's post...

olderskyblue · Nov 30, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
Jesus Christ Nick...you didn't think that was a real headline did you?!

He hoped it was.....

Skyblueweeman · Nov 30, 2015

It's quite exciting this...a bit like a glorified Jeremy Kyle show...

Jezza: "Well Ann and John, you didn't want to deal with them did you, did you? You wanted hell to freeze over before doing a deal with them, didn't you? Hell to freeze over. And as for you Joy, I don't know what you're smirking at...you moved a club 34 miles away to upset the loyal fans, didn't you, didn't you."

"Join me after the break when we continue to un-wrangle this Coventry sized mess".

Camera pans out to Simon taking notes/delivering coffee....

lifeskyblue · Nov 30, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
It's quite exciting this...a bit like a glorified Jeremy Kyle show...

Jezza: "Well Ann and John, you didn't want to deal with them did you, did you? You wanted hell to freeze over before doing a deal with them, didn't you? Hell to freeze over. And as for you Joy, I don't know what you're smirking at...you moved a club 34 miles away to upset the loyal fans, didn't you, didn't you."

"Join me after the break when we continue to un-wrangle this Coventry sized mess".

Camera pans out to Simon taking notes/delivering coffee....

The awful thing weeman is you are probably spot on

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Captain Dart · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
True, but you've plainly made your mind up already.

Plainly you've already made your mind up about my conclusions.

Actually I only have a view about Reid's article, I read that but not the rest of it.

However I do think that media attacks on both Sepalla and Lucas are only to be expected, just part of the usual shit storm in a controversial issue.

Captain Dart · Nov 30, 2015

torchomatic said:
It was a joke. Sorry, I'm rubbish at jokes.

Nick is rubbish at understanding.

Sbarcher · Nov 30, 2015

Seems like the CC Councillors who made the decisions are also sitting at the Ethics Meeting. Every chance of a fair outcome then!!!!!!!!!!

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

Captain Dart said:
However I do think that media attacks on both Sepalla and Lucas are only to be expected, just part of the usual shit storm in a controversial issue.

So when you look at the evidence, the outcome that there was no PR attacks found is a bit strange? Especially as it is there in emails that they were doing it.

Nick · Nov 30, 2015

IS that Brian fella a witness or anything?

MusicDating · Nov 30, 2015

Nick said:
IS that Brian fella a witness or anything?

Not if it's '_brian_'...

Erm, LOL.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 30, 2015

Nick said:
The emails are here - http://democraticservices.coventry.gov.uk/documents/s26521/Appendix 5b Documents.pdf

Someone's been busy with their black pen.

eastwoodsdustman · Nov 30, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Someone's been busy with their black pen.

More like a blackwash than a whitewash with all of the bits blacked out.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Nov 30, 2015

Can someone with more info & time than me forward this lot over to Private Eye.....should make a good follow up piece to the rotten borough article....

....Heads should roll!

torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

But upshot of call is that they want to go after Seppala (and sideline <redacted>)

<redacted> - they are keen on us building up a new timeline to set out a PR attack on Joy. So taking Friday as the earliest point at which they'd attack.

Deleted member 5849 said:
Someone's been busy with their black pen.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 30, 2015

I also like the transcript of a newspaper report(?) where someone very diligently redacts all names... apart from a rogue 'Tim'

Skyblueweeman · Nov 30, 2015

I have to say, it's not looking great for the council, is it?

torchomatic · Nov 30, 2015

I think we need to discuss this Joy thing as a WS team. I don't really want to get into mud-slinging from ACL as I think that starts to eat away at credibility with fans.

<redacted> were discussing suggesting a meeting in public , chaired by Cov Telegraph editor or similar, to thrash out the deal and put Joy in the spotlight.

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