Euro 2016 big thread (14 Viewers)

no_loyalty · Jun 20, 2016

No idea why Hodgson didn't bring Rashford on instead of Kane, can now understand why Kane was taking the corners, he cannot head.

Johnnythespider · Jun 20, 2016

With the lack of goals should Roy consider putting Rooney back up front ?

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Otis · Jun 20, 2016

Johnnythespider said:
With the lack of goals should Roy consider putting Rooney back up front ?

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Pipehitterz said:
no I was following it on here ?

What's with the question marks for no reason?

I am guessing it must be the latest trend?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 20, 2016

Johnnythespider said:
With the lack of goals should Roy consider putting Rooney back up front ?

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No, imo Rooney isn't sharp enough to play upfront anymore.

Great_Expectations · Jun 20, 2016

I thought we played well tonight, the obvious issue being the lack of cutting edge. I don't think you can blame Roy for that - he took five strikers to the Euros and started the two scorers from the previous game.

My one criticism is Henderson - against a tight, tactical defence like that where only intricate passing or a touch of class will win the game/break the opposition down, he does not fit.

Johnnythespider · Jun 20, 2016

Otis said:
What's with the question marks for no reason?

I am guessing it must be the latest trend?

Because I was asking a question?

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CJ_covblaze · Jun 20, 2016

Clyne not utilised despite him being in yards of space constantly. We were too slow going forwards until Rooney and Alli came on. Henderson the main cause of that. Bertrand was very poor too I thought. Pissed off we now have to go down to Nice.

CJ_covblaze · Jun 20, 2016

Btw if anyone wants to drive down to Nice I will make it well worth your while!

stupot07 · Jun 20, 2016

Wilshire was awful, as was Bertrand, Henderson poor, I thought Barkley might have been a better option than ali. Too many side wards passes. Bilic is right, we dominated against a side that were content to let us have the ball, for all of the possession, corners and chances, we didn't do enough in the final third.

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Bristol sky blue · Jun 20, 2016

Though Henderson's crossing let him down tonight, I don't think his performance was as bad as others are making out. Unlucky not score with that volley which was well blocked too...

As for Wilshire, thought he really was poor. Gave away possession frequently and not physical enough. Unlike Henderson, he sometimes 'hid' so that teammates could not pass to him (think his fitness may still be an issue).
I don't like to scapegoat players, but I was very happy when he was replaced by Rooney on 56mins...

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jun 20, 2016

Thought Slovakia defended really well
So when will England play next

Otis · Jun 20, 2016

Johnnythespider said:
Because I was asking a question?

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Sorry tagged your post too by mistake.

Otis · Jun 20, 2016

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Thought Slovakia defended really well
So when will England play next

Monday 8pm apparently.

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jun 20, 2016

Well feck it anyway

SkyBlueSid · Jun 21, 2016

I really don't see how Hodgson can say he was happy with that tonight. Yes, we had all the possession and dominated territorially. But we simply don't have the players to break down a blanket defence and seem content to just keep lumping it in the vague direction of the opposition goal. We seem to be unable to find a way to use Vardy properly so he is feeding on scraps. We lack players of true world class and it really showed tonight.

The bottom line is that we have failed to win probably the weakest of the six groups. Wales, Slovakia and Russia are all mediocre teams and England have struggled to score in all three games so are really not much better than any of them. There will probably be 3 teams qualify from the group which is a disgrace really and shows what a joke the 24-team format is.

Wyken Sky Blue · Jun 21, 2016

Disappointing how we have played over the three games but we qualified so that's good enough for me.

Well done to Wales though.

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Otis · Jun 21, 2016

Positives are that we have completely dominated for three games in a row, not been beaten and are through to the next stages.

Main negative has to be the worrying lack of goals in a team that looks like it should be full of goals.

As for last night, Bertrand was disappointing, Wilshire way off the pace, Henderson all hit and miss again, Sturridge played far too deep and yet again our shots were all too close to or straight at the keeper. Three games now, same issue in every single game.

The obvious downside to all this is that if we get through the next game it looks like France awaits.

Otis · Jun 21, 2016

skyblue1991 said:
Disappointing how we have played over the three games but we qualified so that's good enough for me.

Well done to Wales though.

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Yep, they did really well, however, did you see the Russian defending? Absolutely disgraceful. You can actually see players giving up and not chasing back for the goals.

Seems they used up all their defensive prowess against us. They were shocking last night.

no_loyalty · Jun 21, 2016

skyblue1991 said:
Disappointing how we have played over the three games but we qualified so that's good enough for me.

Well done to Wales though.

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If we had won the group we would have avoided France, if we win in the next round we are scheduled to play them in the QF (providing they get through)

Otis · Jun 21, 2016

Who are France likely to be up against next?

Liquid Gold · Jun 21, 2016

A positive has to be that games will open up a bit now, teams can't just sit back and play for the draw which should give us more chances

Terry Gibson's perm · Jun 21, 2016

Although England will make a big deal of playing France and probably lose they shouldn't as they are just another average team the only player they have that would worry me is Greizzman.

Liquid Gold · Jun 21, 2016

Lets be honest though, all this talk of shooting ourselves in the foot by now having to play France in the quarters is nonsense. You always play a tough team in the quarters, if we'd have won the group it would be Spain or Belgium. The main thing we have to avoid is playing Portugal in the next round.

Wyken Sky Blue · Jun 21, 2016

no_loyalty said:
If we had won the group we would have avoided France, if we win in the next round we are scheduled to play them in the QF (providing they get through)

What is your point?

It doesn't matter who we get at any stage.

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CCFC88 · Jun 21, 2016

SkyBlueSid said:
I really don't see how Hodgson can say he was happy with that tonight. Yes, we had all the possession and dominated territorially. But we simply don't have the players to break down a blanket defence and seem content to just keep lumping it in the vague direction of the opposition goal. We seem to be unable to find a way to use Vardy properly so he is feeding on scraps. We lack players of true world class and it really showed tonight.

The bottom line is that we have failed to win probably the weakest of the six groups. Wales, Slovakia and Russia are all mediocre teams and England have struggled to score in all three games so are really not much better than any of them. There will probably be 3 teams qualify from the group which is a disgrace really and shows what a joke the 24-team format is.

I think the 3 we played against are better than, Switzerland, Albania & Romania and Hungary, Iceland & Austria who lets be honest all put up a fight and more against France and Portugal respectively.

The format dictates that someone will make it out of a group with 3 points and 4 points almost certainly see's you through, for teams like Albania, Slovakia, Hungary and Iceland that is a huge acheievement.

Whilst I think that teams will be slightly more open in the KO stages, penalty prcatice is a must!

jimmyhillsfanclub · Jun 21, 2016

Is now a good time to reveal my Welsh heritage?

Otis · Jun 21, 2016

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Is now a good time to reveal my Welsh heritage?

I ate a Welsh cake once and have a Gorky's Zygotic Mynci album, do I qualify?

no_loyalty · Jun 21, 2016

skyblue1991 said:
What is your point?

It doesn't matter who we get at any stage.

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My point is, had we won the group we would have had an easier passage to the next round

covmark · Jun 21, 2016

no_loyalty said:
My point is, had we won the group we would have had an easier passage to the next round

We will most likely get Hungary, hardly world beaters.
Get through that and it'll be most likely France in the quarters. If we'd won the group it most likely would have been Belgium in the quarters. Not much between those two tbh.

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Otis · Jun 21, 2016

covmark said:
We will most likely get Hungary, hardly world beaters.
Get through that and it'll be most likely France in the quarters. If we'd won the group it most likely would have been Belgium in the quarters. Not much between those two tbh.

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Yep, very true and of course if things are not going well French supporters can be quite vocal about their side.

If we aim to win it we have to play these sides at some point don't we.

Might as well play France now and Albania in the final, rather than the other way round.

Otis · Jun 21, 2016

On a side note, I was thinking last night , I wish we had taken Andros Townsend with us.

I believed it at the time of the squad selection and I think he might have made a difference, especially last night.

Liquid Gold · Jun 21, 2016

Otis said:
On a side note, I was thinking last night , I wish we had taken Andros Townsend with us.

I believed it at the time of the squad selection and I think he might have made a difference, especially last night.

Agree with this completely. He offers us an option in attack and some width. Plus he always seems to score goals for England

Otis · Jun 21, 2016

Liquid Gold said:
Agree with this completely. He offers us an option in attack and some width. Plus he always seems to score goals for England

Now of course the selection of Sterling is looking like a very dodgy choice. Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see him again this campaign.

Skyblueweeman · Jun 21, 2016

Screw the Welsh and English...sat at home, NI shirt on, Red Hand Ulster draped over my shoulders....damage limitation today and we can still go through...

Nick · Jun 21, 2016

Who is playing today?

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