Any owner that put the club and the stadium under the same company would be wholly unfit for purpose. This seems a common theme from you and Tony and highlights an incredible lack of business understanding.
In other words you have no argument for trusting them with the Ricoh.
The club is two companies. Is it going to be in one of these companies? If not how are the club going to have access to non footballing revenue and more importantly (given that this seems to be the current line of why we have to own our stadium) how will this count towards FFP. It's that simple.
These are the questions that sisu keep dodging. Why?
That's the danger isn't it, if this guy doesn't get elected it can be argued that the voting public have agreed with the stance CCC have taken and you actually end up doing more harm than good.
Hopefully before long we will see a clear strategy as to how the groups aims can be achieved, do that and I think they will get a lot more support.
I trust them 100% what are you on about, what can they do to it?
The holding company will own both the club and the property. FPP rules permit this.
Next.
The holding company will own both the club and the property. FPP rules permit this.
The holding company will own both the club and the property. FPP rules permit this.
Next.
I trust them 100% what are you on about, what can they do to it?
What do you mean "entrusted" - it isn't the hanging gardens of Babylon - its a football ground which is now never used. What do you think they will do - knock it down and rebuild in the Cayman Islands?
The question was "can (you) explain why sisu should be entrusted with the stadium?" Please explain why we should trust sisu with the Ricoh!
And you know this how? And if it is a fact why don't we all know when it would win sisu a lot of favour with the fans.
I geniunely don't know what they can do with it.
SISU are good at working different numbers between their different companies. Now the arena is up and running it makes money. They could charge our club say 2m a year rent. They could keep the F+B money, all car park income, hotel income, conference money and whatever else comes in. This would amount to a lot of income. Then yes they would be able to get a massive loan put against the arena. This would get them their money back plus more which would be their profit. Then they could toss our club aside and go whilst leaving us in a poor state without a home.
Shouldn't need much of a campaign then if this is what he's up against. Surely it'll be embarrassing if he loses to such an awful woman. How many votes do you think he will win by?
I repeat I do not understand what you mean. You talk about a faceless meaningless football ground as if it is some ancient and precious artifact that has been placed in the hands if the artful dodger. I geniunely don't know what they can do with it.
No it wouldn't as people still lest we wouldn't own the ground.
Its hilarious how people say sisu couldn't be entrusted with the ground yet a company that has had two administrations in a decade should have it in its fixed asset base.
No it wouldn't as people still lest we wouldn't own the ground.
Its hilarious how people say sisu couldn't be entrusted with the ground yet a company that has had two administrations in a decade should have it in its fixed asset base.
Hang on a minute, the bloke standing for this is a Totters fan. I missed this. The only person who was blagged into this is a former Cllr who is a Totters fan. No disrespect to him as others have said he is a sound bloke, I'm sure he is. It does however (for me) sum up this mess.
I repeat I do not understand what you mean. You talk about a faceless meaningless football ground as if it is some ancient and precious artifact that has been placed in the hands if the artful dodger. I geniunely don't know what they can do with it.
Well it was a simple question, but I didn't expect you to give any compelling reason, because even the man running the campaign can't give any compelling reason why sisu should be trusted with the Ricoh, could that be because there are no compelling reasons?
You have stated that you trust sisu 100%, you have also stated that you think this campaign is not only an excellent idea, but something that you came up with some weeks ago, so surely you must have some compelling reasons why we can trust sisu with the Ricoh?
I couldn't give a shit if it burned down tomorrow if the club didn't return.
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Astute's hypothesis is as usual absurd. The club needs the acquisition to improve asset value.
That's just jibberish. I don't know what question you were answering but it wasn't mine.
I repeat your assertion is that the Ricoh is some kind of Iiving entity. It isn't. I couldn't give a shit if it burned down tomorrow if the club didn't return.
Astute's hypothesis is as usual absurd. The club needs the acquisition to improve asset value. The hedge fund strategy was to sell the club after five years. Their support for ranson was deluded and then there was a period of drift. Now this is a ten year project which is not unheard of in hedge fund policy. If the Ricoh isms attained they will seek to try and gain elevation through the leagues and then sell.
Grendel off on a tangent as usual
Because obviously Sisu are here for one reason and one reason only, to make money and they will only leave when they have made a good few million, which means CCFC will have to be in a better shape.Where did I assert that the Ricoh is some kind of living entity?
You still haven't answered the question, why should we trust sisu with the Ricoh?
Because obviously Sisu are here for one reason and one reason only, to make money and they will only leave when they have made a good few million, which means CCFC will have to be in a better shape.
Because obviously Sisu are here for one reason and one reason only, to make money and they will only leave when they have made a good few million, which means CCFC will have to be in a better shape.
Your suggestion would certainly be one way for them to make some money back for their investors, I wonder if those investors are willing to fund losses for another 4,5,6 or say 20 years before those extra millions roll in from our success.
Another, maybe quicker, way for them to get some money back would be to try and get something valuable, but not pay very much for it.
I repeat your assertion is that the Ricoh is some kind of Iiving entity. It isn't. I couldn't give a shit if it burned down tomorrow if the club didn't return.
Astute's hypothesis is as usual absurd. The club needs the acquisition to improve asset value. The hedge fund strategy was to sell the club after five years. Their support for ranson was deluded and then there was a period of drift. Now this is a ten year project which is not unheard of in hedge fund policy. If the Ricoh isms attained they will seek to try and gain elevation through the leagues and then sell.
Pretty sure your view on Ricoh Arena fire risk status is not shared by 98% of Coventry "supporters" or SISU themselves.
What is yours and others "real" problem of playing at one of the finest stadiums in the Country?
This for me is the saddest part. Top ground to some joke stadium I visited in a pre season friendly in the 90s.
Has anyone any idea how they could do this? :thinking about:
I repeat your assertion is that the Ricoh is some kind of Iiving entity. It isn't. I couldn't give a shit if it burned down tomorrow if the club didn't return.
Because obviously Sisu are here for one reason and one reason only, to make money and they will only leave when they have made a good few million, which means CCFC will have to be in a better shape.
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