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Think that was definitely the case. People ran away that he was a good player because he got the gig at Liverpool for a period. The new Stevie G………,.
Think that was definitely the case. People ran away that he was a good player because he got the gig at Liverpool for a period. The new Stevie G………,.He looked really decent alongside Fleck.
Anyone know what happened with him?
Did Fleck make him look better than he was?
I was so chuffed when we sold him. £500k too if I remember right. Not bad back then.Jeez! Andy Pearce-the best/worst own goal I’ve ever seen against QPR I think. Nothing more than a hod carrier. Bit of a cult hero though at Sheff Wed by all accounts.
Hermes, Ark Royal?Yes their carriers took a bit of a knowsdive afterwards
Mark Mcnulty had a fantastic spell here under MR, he jumped ship at the first opportunity to that fantastic club Reading, and that was basically the end of his career (at any reasonable level at least)
Now I get the argument that he grabbed the chance of Premier league wages, and you can understand that, fair play for taking the money, but ..... what might of been if he'd stayed another year under MR who understood him, got the best out of him, gave him confidence and played to his strengths.
Another successful season here and his value "could" of rocketed, he "could" of got a move to a proper Premier league team and made even more money, and who knows what may of happened to his career.
As it is, he's now at the mighty Shamrock Rovers of all places, and not even guaranteed a start!
Nosedive?Yes their carriers took a bit of a knowsdive afterwards
I think Bayliss was very good at progressing the ball, seemed to glide past players with ease.Disagree about Bayliss. Though he had something.
Didn't go to the cup game against Stoke and listened on 5live, Chris Waddle was raving about him.
Think he should have done better than ending up at Shrewsbury, no disrespect to them.
He looked really decent alongside Fleck.
Anyone know what happened with him?
Did Fleck make him look better than he was?
I think had McNulty stayed, he would’ve continued to score goals in league one and perhaps got a better move than Reading who were a basket case at the time. At the very least, his fitness levels wouldn’t have plummeted like they did.
Whether he regrets it or not is up to him.
Nosedive?
He was actually getting in the Newcastle side when he first went and ending up starting in a European 1/4 final against Benfica so there was quite clearly something thereHe was massively overhyped and his move to Newcastle was pretty much engineered on the club's inability to bring in any replacements for those that departed that summer.
If he'd stayed he might've had a more established career (illness aside), but I very much doubt he would've played consistently above L1 level.
When you look at the money Reading put him on, when no disrespect as good as he was he was never a Championship player is it any wonder that they are now on their arse financiallyMark Mcnulty had a fantastic spell here under MR, he jumped ship at the first opportunity to that fantastic club Reading, and that was basically the end of his career (at any reasonable level at least)
Now I get the argument that he grabbed the chance of Premier league wages, and you can understand that, fair play for taking the money, but ..... what might of been if he'd stayed another year under MR who understood him, got the best out of him, gave him confidence and played to his strengths.
Another successful season here and his value "could" of rocketed, he "could" of got a move to a proper Premier league team and made even more money, and who knows what may of happened to his career.
As it is, he's now at the mighty Shamrock Rovers of all places, and not even guaranteed a start!
I know the club was not in the position to turn the money down at the time but it's a massive shame we couldn't cling on to Bayliss for another season, would have been in his element in that side that won League 1 and was a comfortably better footballer than WestbrookeRecent years it's definitely Bayliss for me.
He just looked so much quality. Shame the move didn't work out for him, Preston was the wrong club but we told him he wasn't wanted here and he funded the promotion squad.
I think George Thomas is a sign that moving sometimes works.He always looked L2 for me but he managed to get 3 years on PL wages and 3 years on Championship wages. set himself up nicely to then settle playing lower league football.
He was actually getting in the Newcastle side when he first went and ending up starting in a European 1/4 final against Benfica so there was quite clearly something there
His first season at Newcastle followed the same pattern as his breakthrough season here, relatively bright start but quickly his performances fell off a cliff. I think it says a lot he barely featured again for them after his first year.
His game time probably should be taken with a pinch of salt as well. That Newcastle squad was incredibly thin beyond its starting XI - similar to us the season prior. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't even make the bench in that QF did he?
No doubt he had promise, but the hype was utterly ridiculous given his actual ability. Like I said it was engineered by a heartwarming backstory, key personnel leaving and not being replaced, and Thorn / large sections of the fanbase making out he was the second coming when in reality his performances, beyond pre-season and less than a handful of league games, were genuinely dire.
Christie in that relegation season was the much more promising player yet he didn't seem to get all that much recognition in comparison.
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Newcastle's centre mid options that season were Tiote, Cabaye, Sissoko, Dan Gosling and Vurnon Anita, not bad players
I think we have done well not to have very many players that "are the ones who got away"- other than exceptional talent like Vic, Gus, Maddison and C Wilson who we knew would be PL players then the L1/2 bunch - Baylis, Willis, Harries, JCH etc have all had careers but none really at Champ or above level.
Obviously the Loans make you think - Maatsen, Doyle etc but they were just great loans
Maybe Chaplin is one that has had a better career than we may have thought. We certainly wouldnt have got rid of Hyam as we all know and maybe Fadz went too early but hard to think of many others recently who would have improved OR improved our side
Chaplin deal was a good move for all partiesYou say that but, Chaplin, like JCH, just wasn't utilised correctly and forced to play in a system/style that wasn't at all suited to his strengths. It was clear ability wise he was a talented player.
Not getting a tune out of JCH was the more bizarre, especially as he hit the ground running so quickly after leaving.
Disagree about Bayliss. Though he had something.
Didn't go to the cup game against Stoke and listened on 5live, Chris Waddle was raving about him.
Think he should have done better than ending up at Shrewsbury, no disrespect to them.
He’s at Lincoln now side going for top 6, Tyler Walker’s there too but permanently injuredDisagree about Bayliss. Though he had something.
Didn't go to the cup game against Stoke and listened on 5live, Chris Waddle was raving about him.
Think he should have done better than ending up at Shrewsbury, no disrespect to them.
Yet didn't look out of place!Ah okay thanks.
Sissoko didn't join until the January and Gosling was most likely injured for the majority of that season as he didn't feature much.
Once Sissoko came in Bigi barely got on the pitch again.
I was ITK at the time. Cyrus said he only ever saw Andy Thorn on match days. Was very upset with the treatment he was getting as a young professional by opposing players with no protection from the refs. Think a match at Bristol was particularly horrendous.His first season at Newcastle followed the same pattern as his breakthrough season here, relatively bright start but quickly his performances fell off a cliff. I think it says a lot he barely featured again for them after his first year.
His game time probably should be taken with a pinch of salt as well. That Newcastle squad was incredibly thin beyond its starting XI - similar to us the season prior. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't even make the bench in that QF did he?
No doubt he had promise, but the hype was utterly ridiculous given his actual ability. Like I said it was engineered by a heartwarming backstory, key personnel leaving and not being replaced, and Thorn / large sections of the fanbase making out he was the second coming when in reality his performances, beyond pre-season and less than a handful of league games, were genuinely dire.
Christie in that relegation season was the much more promising player yet he didn't seem to get all that much recognition in comparison.
I was ITK at the time. Cyrus said he only ever saw Andy Thorn on match days. Was very upset with the treatment he was getting as a young professional by opposing players with no protection from the refs. Think a match at Bristol was particularly horrendous.
Of course, Cyrus now dishes it out with the best of them.
Clearly, Tatsu is getting the same treatment now with similar indifference from the refs.
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