I don't normally highlight such things, but I really need to know what that autocorrected word means!
This show’s Hamilton had already backed off given the image I posted showed he was further up the inside before they hit the corner.
This show’s Hamilton had already backed off given the image I posted showed he was further up the inside before they hit the corner.
Does seem that way, but Hamilton is still miles from the apex and wouldn't have made the corner if Max wasn't there.
Compare that to the above image of the Leclerc overtake where he was hugging the apex and inside kerb, and was level with Charles just before turn in.
Yes he may have started to back out, but its still a move he had minimal chance of pulling off, especially at Copse
Does seem that way, but Hamilton is still miles from the apex and wouldn't have made the corner if Max wasn't there.
Compare that to the above image of the Leclerc overtake where he was hugging the apex and inside kerb, and was level with Charles just before turn in.
Yes he may have started to back out, but its still a move he had minimal chance of pulling off, especially at Copse
Thing is, they're racing drivers. We all complain that there's not enough action at times, then when there is action we moan because *insert favourite driver here* is impacted. Personally I'd rather the racing drivers were allowed to race as much as possible.
Im the resident max fan, so of course i see that As Lewis punting max off at 180mph.
Tell you what. The rest of the season will be fireworks. This will be another Rosberg Hamilton battle
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Agree. But i think the sour taste is that there was such a swing between title rivals points wise that Lewis got away with it massively lightly
Part of the sport. It's happened many a time before, we forget with the last few championships being one horse races. At least it makes the title race interesting again. Still think Max wins (and wouldn't mind seeing that either).
Lewis got what the stewards deemed the appropriate penalty. The effect on the title race is not part of their consideration, nor should it be.Agree. But i think the sour taste is that there was such a swing between title rivals points wise that Lewis got away with it massively lightly
Im the resident max fan, so of course i see that As Lewis punting max off at 180mph.
Shouldn’t be like this really. Says more about you than anything. F1 is as toxic as football these days.
Media going to pour fuel onto this Lewis - Max thing for their own benefit. Not going to help the situation.Shouldn’t be like this really. Says more about you than anything. F1 is as toxic as football these days.
The one thing that left a bitter taste in my mouth was his complete lack of compassion. As a human if I'd been involved in a shunt at any speed and the other person had been taken to hospital for checks, I'd show some compassion and worry about the fella.
Lewis was merely surprised he was at hospital but wasn't concerned for his welfare.
He immediately asked over the radio if Max was alright. What else do you want him to do, get out and give him a cuddle?This completely.
Can you imagine Jenson doing that? Lando? George? He's very Narcissistic is Lewis
He inquired over the radio several times about Max. Was told he was okay and had walked away from the crash.The one thing that left a bitter taste in my mouth was his complete lack of compassion. As a human if I'd been involved in a shunt at any speed and the other person had been taken to hospital for checks, I'd show some compassion and worry about the fella.
Lewis was merely surprised he was at hospital but wasn't concerned for his welfare.
He immediately asked over the radio if Max was alright. What else do you want him to do, get out and give him a cuddle?
I missed that, but he did show a complete lack of compassion during interviews including the one where he was informed Max was at hospital.He immediately asked over the radio if Max was alright. What else do you want him to do, get out and give him a cuddle?
It could just be he doesn't like Max very muchI missed that, but he did show a complete lack of compassion during interviews including the one where he was informed Max was at hospital.
I think it was a racing incident , but it was more lewis’ fault than max’sJust watched an Interview with Leclerc, who was obviously immediately behind the pair and he said in his opinion it was a racing incident - that's enough for me. The only reason Hamilton got a penalty was because Max crashed out. If it was Lewis who crashed out Max would have got a penalty. If neither of them crashed out, none of them would have got a penalty. Its that simple. They were both at fault in one way or another but not one more than the other. Max is just being a bitch
Hence the stewards said "predominantly" Hamilton's fault rather than completely his fault.I think it was a racing incident , but it was more lewis’ fault than max’s
Getting silly because teams will be producing data every week claiming if X had done this Y might have happened.One thing is for sure, we've not heard the end of this.
Martin Brundle:
"I have been told by Red Bull that there is data that they can use to prove that Hamilton went into Copse Corner significantly faster than at any other time and that he could not have made the corner without going wide and inevitably tapping Verstappen in the end."
"It is likely that this data will come out,"
Got to say, despite Merc's protestations to the contrary, that's certainly how it appeared to me, hence him completely missing the apex.
One thing is for sure, we've not heard the end of this.
Martin Brundle:
"I have been told by Red Bull that there is data that they can use to prove that Hamilton went into Copse Corner significantly faster than at any other time and that he could not have made the corner without going wide and inevitably tapping Verstappen in the end."
"It is likely that this data will come out,"
Got to say, despite Merc's protestations to the contrary, that's certainly how it appeared to me, hence him completely missing the apex.
Yeah, racing drivers always acknowledge there's a risk involved in motor racing, and being checked over in hospital isn't really the same as if he'd been taken there on a stretcher.He immediately asked over the radio if Max was alright. What else do you want him to do, get out and give him a cuddle?
Maybe he should get the same penalty Max got in China 2018 when he stormed into a corner dangerously, taking Vettel outOne thing is for sure, we've not heard the end of this.
Martin Brundle:
"I have been told by Red Bull that there is data that they can use to prove that Hamilton went into Copse Corner significantly faster than at any other time and that he could not have made the corner without going wide and inevitably tapping Verstappen in the end."
"It is likely that this data will come out,"
Got to say, despite Merc's protestations to the contrary, that's certainly how it appeared to me, hence him completely missing the apex.
Aston Martin have a facility in Silverstone, they probably have a money for returns policy
Red Bull know that Max can be hot-headed so should be calming things down and focusing on having the best car.Turn one in Hungary is going to be epic.
Red Bull can rightly be miffed at what happened over the weekend but their reaction has been over the top and looks to be rumbling on for the foreseeable. Court cases? Wow. I think they have the best car and driver combo and are favourites for both titles but off track they are losing their heads and that will eventually impact on how things go on track. I'm sure Merc will be looking to stir the pot at every given opportunity from now on. It's the best chance.
Red Bull know that Max can be hot-headed so should be calming things down and focusing on having the best car.
Best answer is to win in Hungary - not let Max get mixed up with lewis.
I don' t think punishment etc should be related to Championship position. Has to be a uniform approach all the way down - with prize money distribution etc just as important to small teams -eg if it's a Williams & Haas battling for a 10th placed finish and a jump up the end of season prize money ladder.Agreed.
Totally get their frustrations, it's cost them a swing of 25pts in the Driver's Championship & 40pts in the Constructor's Championship not to mention ££££ to get the car repaired.
At the end of the day though, FIA have seen it & called it & Hamilton got a penalty. We can debate whether or not it was severe enough (imo no, they should take into account the context of the race/championship result but that's a different argument) but it was an honest mistake from Hamilton & punishment is in keeping with similar incidents in previous races so hard to complain too much on that basis, particularly as Max himself has been guilty in the past (admittedly totally different contexts).
It seems to me that by banging on as they are about the incident they are suggesting they think it was a deliberate act from Hamilton & I'm sorry, I don't buy that at all.
By all means campaign for a rule change on penalties for future potentially Championship deciding incidents, but at the minute they're flogging a dead horse & distracting Max & the rest of the team from the immediate big picture.
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