Fair and reasonable for me. I think it’s a mixture of ccc wasps and Sisu for me. The one organisation I give no blame is ccfc and the vast majority effected are thousands of ccfc fans
Wasps wouldn’t have had the chance otherwise, CCC share a lesser part for me.
Think that's the key we need to be back in cov next season as it affects everything on the pitch. Think with no fans this season it worked in the clubs benefit re operating costs.
Short and long term we have to be in cov. Long term from your meetings how likely is the new stadium?
I'd love to say I 100% believe there will be a new stadium, but I'm still skeptical. There are talks going on but until there's a brick laid it's hard to get too excited. I don't know anything that's not public.
I'm more hopeful that we could be back in Coventry next season though. If we are then we need to start filling out the stadium as much as possible to give us half a chance. We really need to be getting back to 20k+ attendances in my opinion to be competitive under the current model.
My big worry is that fans(not just of our club) will less inclined to go to games after the pandemic has run its course. The umbilical cord will have been severed for many and it will be difficult to engage them, especially if losing.Drivings sales is not the job of the customers. If we don’t put on a product that attracts 20k after years of failure and lies, it won’t be the fault of Janet from Coundon.
Drivings sales is not the job of the customers. If we don’t put on a product that attracts 20k after years of failure and lies, it won’t be the fault of Janet from Coundon.
Got to love the classics.
The only way we ended up without a secure tenancy was because we gave up our secure tenancy on a gamble we could strong arm a better deal, which failed.
Once we’d handed control of our fate to third parties everything else is crying over spilt milk TBH.
I can’t see how anyone can claim a club out of the big leagues for a decade, not playing at home, unable to fund a team on the level of the rest of the division is a better position.
Mostly it seems we wasted a decade because the owner couldn’t be arsed to involve herself and is spectacularly bad at hiring people/advisors.
Absolutely right, but I think the product on the pitch is there to be fair (mostly). The club have got to find other ways to try to attract fans back.
The one thing I would say is that if as fans we don't show up to support the team then we cannot moan when we start slipping back towards the lower leagues.
Think that's the key we need to be back in cov next season as it affects everything on the pitch. Think with no fans this season it worked in the clubs benefit re operating costs.
Short and long term we have to be in cov. Long term from your meetings how likely is the new stadium?
Think it unlikely for many various reasons but I don’t doubt the owners desire to build a new stadium at all. Just don’t think the money and will is there to make it happen
He’s just being Jonny Opposite again.
Not really people honestly have to get their heads out of the sand.
The owners have no interest in ccfc - please let’s at least be realistic about this. They have a business intent (calling it a strategy would imply some sort of joined up thinking) to distress another business to secure primary tenancy of a building.
There is nothing wrong with this as an aim and the strategy in the year of the Northampton move was a very good one in theory and could have worked.
The problem now is there is no real strategy at all. The aim is clearly to keep a curious pretence that they are in it for the fans but that’s not the case is it? If it was they would have signed a deal to remain in the City and would have easily increased revenue. So they are not even interested in revenue to support the product - they are in it for investors and they are in it just to try and ensure there high risk investment element have something to cling to.
Seppalla is a distaster zone. She’s a hedge fund owner operating an outdated hedge fund strategy in a sector it never even works in. She can’t accept defeat and instead just lumbers on in some absurd ideology she can capture a lease on a stadium her business cannot even afford
Off the pitch there is no direction there is no strategy and there is no purpose.
As for supporting the club the accounts will be interesting. In the last published accounts a million was drawn back in deferred interest payments - so let’s not go down the Boddy line of being grateful for support. It’s going to be interest bearing loans which will be recovered
I see no future here. There is no definable strategy now and regardless of blame apportionment this battle is lost. Seppalla is a punch drunk old school hedge fund owner who is smashed on the canvas by the council and their insect allies time and time again.
It’s obvious she’s never throwing the towel in but she needs a final knockdown as she’s a loser and she needs to go
I tend to agree with Grendel on this subject.Not really people honestly have to get their heads out of the sand.
The owners have no interest in ccfc - please let’s at least be realistic about this. They have a business intent (calling it a strategy would imply some sort of joined up thinking) to distress another business to secure primary tenancy of a building.
There is nothing wrong with this as an aim and the strategy in the year of the Northampton move was a very good one in theory and could have worked.
The problem now is there is no real strategy at all. The aim is clearly to keep a curious pretence that they are in it for the fans but that’s not the case is it? If it was they would have signed a deal to remain in the City and would have easily increased revenue. So they are not even interested in revenue to support the product - they are in it for investors and they are in it just to try and ensure there high risk investment element have something to cling to.
Seppalla is a distaster zone. She’s a hedge fund owner operating an outdated hedge fund strategy in a sector it never even works in. She can’t accept defeat and instead just lumbers on in some absurd ideology she can capture a lease on a stadium her business cannot even afford
Off the pitch there is no direction there is no strategy and there is no purpose.
As for supporting the club the accounts will be interesting. In the last published accounts a million was drawn back in deferred interest payments - so let’s not go down the Boddy line of being grateful for support. It’s going to be interest bearing loans which will be recovered
I see no future here. There is no definable strategy now and regardless of blame apportionment this battle is lost. Seppalla is a punch drunk old school hedge fund owner who is smashed on the canvas by the council and their insect allies time and time again.
It’s obvious she’s never throwing the towel in but she needs a final knockdown as she’s a loser and she needs to go
Best thing Sisu could do would be get a deal at the Ricoh and planning granted for a ground and sell up to someone who can see it through I reckon. Establish ourselves as a Championship club in the mean time and I think we’re a reasonable proposition to investors.
Appreciate we were at a lower level, which mitigates it to some extent, but it's hard to argue we haven't had success on the pitch the last couple of seasons. In that respect we're on the way up.
Obviously we need to be back in Coventry. That really goes without saying. Maybe we'll be back there next year, let's give it a few weeks and see where we are on that. Maybe we'll get some good news.
Not really people honestly have to get their heads out of the sand.
The owners have no interest in ccfc - please let’s at least be realistic about this. They have a business intent (calling it a strategy would imply some sort of joined up thinking) to distress another business to secure primary tenancy of a building.
There is nothing wrong with this as an aim and the strategy in the year of the Northampton move was a very good one in theory and could have worked.
The problem now is there is no real strategy at all. The aim is clearly to keep a curious pretence that they are in it for the fans but that’s not the case is it? If it was they would have signed a deal to remain in the City and would have easily increased revenue. So they are not even interested in revenue to support the product - they are in it for investors and they are in it just to try and ensure there high risk investment element have something to cling to.
Seppalla is a distaster zone. She’s a hedge fund owner operating an outdated hedge fund strategy in a sector it never even works in. She can’t accept defeat and instead just lumbers on in some absurd ideology she can capture a lease on a stadium her business cannot even afford
Off the pitch there is no direction there is no strategy and there is no purpose.
As for supporting the club the accounts will be interesting. In the last published accounts a million was drawn back in deferred interest payments - so let’s not go down the Boddy line of being grateful for support. It’s going to be interest bearing loans which will be recovered
I see no future here. There is no definable strategy now and regardless of blame apportionment this battle is lost. Seppalla is a punch drunk old school hedge fund owner who is smashed on the canvas by the council and their insect allies time and time again.
It’s obvious she’s never throwing the towel in but she needs a final knockdown as she’s a loser and she needs to go
Yep Ms Seppalla, Mr Boddy and Mr Robins are in no doubt that to progress the club we need to have our own stadium. Their desire is to continue to progress and that requires, in their opinion, a stadium the club ownsYou don’t doubt their desire to build - really?
Best thing Sisu could do would be get a deal at the Ricoh and planning granted for a ground and sell up to someone who can see it through I reckon. Establish ourselves as a Championship club in the mean time and I think we’re a reasonable proposition to investors.
Can’t disagree with any of that to be fair. Still though, your timing feels like you are just out to rustle a few feathers and entertain yourself on the forum.
Going on past experience.
tbf we haven't had one for a while.Unsurprisingly we're back to a SISU out thread after buying a development player.
In terms of confidence going forward however, two of those have a pretty poor track record in seeing a new stadium through, and one's the team manager so can't really be expected to do it.Yep Ms Seppalla, Mr Boddy and Mr Robins are in no doubt that to progress the club we need to have our own stadium. Their desire is to continue to progress and that requires, in their opinion, a stadium the club owns
Best thing Sisu could do would be get a deal at the Ricoh and planning granted for a ground and sell up to someone who can see it through I reckon. Establish ourselves as a Championship club in the mean time and I think we’re a reasonable proposition to investors.
Not really people honestly have to get their heads out of the sand.
The owners have no interest in ccfc - please let’s at least be realistic about this. They have a business intent (calling it a strategy would imply some sort of joined up thinking) to distress another business to secure primary tenancy of a building.
There is nothing wrong with this as an aim and the strategy in the year of the Northampton move was a very good one in theory and could have worked.
The problem now is there is no real strategy at all. The aim is clearly to keep a curious pretence that they are in it for the fans but that’s not the case is it? If it was they would have signed a deal to remain in the City and would have easily increased revenue. So they are not even interested in revenue to support the product - they are in it for investors and they are in it just to try and ensure there high risk investment element have something to cling to.
Seppalla is a distaster zone. She’s a hedge fund owner operating an outdated hedge fund strategy in a sector it never even works in. She can’t accept defeat and instead just lumbers on in some absurd ideology she can capture a lease on a stadium her business cannot even afford
Off the pitch there is no direction there is no strategy and there is no purpose.
As for supporting the club the accounts will be interesting. In the last published accounts a million was drawn back in deferred interest payments - so let’s not go down the Boddy line of being grateful for support. It’s going to be interest bearing loans which will be recovered
I see no future here. There is no definable strategy now and regardless of blame apportionment this battle is lost. Seppalla is a punch drunk old school hedge fund owner who is smashed on the canvas by the council and their insect allies time and time again.
It’s obvious she’s never throwing the towel in but she needs a final knockdown as she’s a loser and she needs to go
Because we've fallen further than we've fallen before.he last few years without much of a strategy we've had our most successful period in a long long time.
Did you like Blair Adams, just out of curiosity... Completely forgot about him tbhWell it’s not then is it? And it’s pretty obvious if we don’t want him we refuse to play the requisite number of games. It’s not the same as Clarke Harris or Jones when we paid loan fees to ensure a transfer
This is more like the Blair Adams situation when he never played 50 games for the club
That's my thinking we need to back in cov because of the finance.I'd love to say I 100% believe there will be a new stadium, but I'm still skeptical. There are talks going on but until there's a brick laid it's hard to get too excited. I don't know anything that's not public.
I'm more hopeful that we could be back in Coventry next season though. If we are then we need to start filling out the stadium as much as possible to give us half a chance. We really need to be getting back to 20k+ attendances in my opinion to be competitive under the current model.
Shame we can't buy SISU and get a development player out.Unsurprisingly we're back to a SISU out thread after buying a development player.
Did you like Blair Adams, just out of curiosity... Completely forgot about him tbh
You could give tickets away for free and so called fans (customers) wouldn't go.Drivings sales is not the job of the customers. If we don’t put on a product that attracts 20k after years of failure and lies, it won’t be the fault of Janet from Coundon.
You could give tickets away for free and so called fans (customers) wouldn't go.
We have a hard core group of 6 to 7k who went to St Andrews.
It will be the same hard core 6 to 7 plus couple of thousand others at the Ricoh for bread and butter games.
The rest are glory hunters fair weather fans who are up for the big games (Wembley) etc.
We are not a big club in terms of season ticket holders not in recent memory.. Barnsley will sell more season tickets than us next season even if we are back at Ricoh.
Pretty pathetic fan base. Lots give it the large find excuses. Anyone can find a excuse not to go.
A bit confused by what you mean here. Are you saying we are as supported as we should be given the level we are at?Utter nonsense.
People are people. We aren’t some magical special case, we get the fans we deserve.
What’s your hypothesis? That there’s something in Coventry water that turns people off football?
If you think we’d get 6k at the Ricoh in the Championship I don’t know what to tell you. And in recent memory we were at our lowest ebb for decades.
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