They shouldn’t be cheaper for the adult. The uproar last season was about the increased price of children’s tickets in standard and premium zones, not the Increase in adult prices. The Family Zone pricing was, in my view, an overreaction which has had unintended consequences through abuse and fraud.
The answer is to just police it better!We should still have more affordable areas of the stadium. You may struggle to fill the family zone next season if suddenly adult prices rise from £250 to £400+.
By increasing those, it may become unaffordable for the families that have benefited. Punishing those because some cheated the system or decided to buy one cheaply to attend a handful of games.
The answer is to just police it better!
Which is what they are trying to do with the threat of revocation.The answer is to just police it better!
It’s the consequences of a really poor decision.How do you police people deciding not to turn up to half the games without this new system?
The two issues are different. There's one issue where people bought an adult/kid and attended without the kid.
The second issue is people deciding to buy a dirty cheap season ticket and happily missing games because it's affordable.
When you've spent £400-£500 for a ST as most of us have, you can't really afford to miss more than a few games.
It’s the consequences of a really poor decision.
That's not really policing it.Which is what they are trying to do with the threat of revocation.
The FZ adult ticket was sold as “when accompanied by a child”. Perhaps holders of such tickets should either not have been admitted if on their own, or charged the difference. However, almost certainly impossible to implement - although presumably the regular “culprits” could probably be identified from last seasons turnstile data.
The pricing of adult tickets in the FZ.Which decision?
I’ll just scan my lads season ticket in for games he can’t make if it gets to the point of revoking it. I get the premise but he can’t make evening games basically.
It’s about non attendance of the non existent kids invented to allow purchase of a package which is cheaper than a standard adult ST. How do you check that. ” My kid has gone in with his mates!”They used to check your season ticket card before you got to the turnstile to make sure you were going in the right one back when they had a thing about everyone using a particular turnstile
Now they have queue management in place shouldn't be hard to get the stewards to check everyone has the correct type of ticket
The question is how you deal with the inevitable arguments
The pricing of adult tickets in the FZ.
It’s about non attendance of the non existent kids invented to allow purchase of a package which is cheaper than a standard adult ST. How do you check that. ” My kid has gone in with his mates!”
Family season tickets that are affordable? This can’t be allowed to continue.The second issue is people deciding to buy a dirty cheap season ticket and happily missing games because it's affordable.
That's not really policing it.
I'm assuming it checks if kids tickets are scanned. How tight are the checks to see if it's a kid scanning it?
I know they show different colours when scanning but that's what they should be policing, not whether kids go to night games.
That wouldn’t stop the abuse of it though.
For instance if you as an adult want a cheaper ticket all you have to do is buy a JSB one with it for an imaginary kid.
Pretty sure I had to take my daughter's birth certificate and id when I signed her up?
How do they police the carer ones?
"You can buy a season ticket thank you very much but be warned you WILL attend or else your ticket will be taken away, without refund, and you will be banned from buying a season ticket next time round as a punishment"
We're not exactly crying out for a bigger stadium are we?
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I was 50/50 as to whether I should renew having missed a number of matches but given this " threat" I'm happy not to bother .
Sooner or later this will be extended to the entire home areas.
They didn’t have to, the “family” complaints were about the fact the price for “children” had gone up so much.They had to because the rest of the ground rose so highly. They needed to offer a cheaper ticket elsewhere in an area of the ground that was quite literally empty in the season before.
Do people just actively not want families to come to our games?And where were these families wanting to buy tickets when we were in league 1+2?
I will take a view on that when and if it happens."You can buy a season ticket thank you very much but be warned you WILL attend or else your ticket will be taken away, without refund, and you will be banned from buying a season ticket next time round as a punishment"
We're not exactly crying out for a bigger stadium are we?
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I was 50/50 as to whether I should renew having missed a number of matches but given this " threat" I'm happy not to bother .
Sooner or later this will be extended to the entire home areas.
We want families to come to games, not single adults who are fraudulently abusing an unnecessarily huge discount in adult prices.Do people just actively not want families to come to our games?
Do people just actively not want families to come to our games?
A fair proportion will have never have had any intention of using them. It’s fraud.A lot of them aren’t coming though, that’s the problem.
What they have done is buy up a limited amount of tickets at a huge discount and then not used them.
Meanwhile families who actually want to go to games have to pay full price
I pay full price and can’t attend all games , I don’t get value for money but I don’t complain. I also pay for fuel , a full tank to get to games and back . Maybe I should ask Doug for a fuel cardWe should still have more affordable areas of the stadium. You may struggle to fill the family zone next season if suddenly adult prices rise from £250 to £400+.
By increasing those, it may become unaffordable for the families that have benefited. Punishing those because some cheated the system or decided to buy one cheaply to attend a handful of games.
The maximum sentence for fraud is 10 years in prison. Is that a fair punishment for missing midweek games in the Family Zone, or will community service be OK?A fair proportion will have never have had any intention of using them. It’s fraud.
Maximum sentence isn’t mandatory. I’d be fine with community service as a punishment for ripping the club.The maximum sentence for fraud is 10 years in prison. Is that a fair punishment for missing midweek games in the Family Zone, or will community service be OK?
Only if you will use it for more than 13 times a season.I pay full price and can’t attend all games , I don’t get value for money but I don’t complain. I also pay for fuel , a full tank to get to games and back . Maybe I should ask Doug for a fuel card
It's not just the family area where season ticket holders aren't turning up . There are vast areas of the north stand in general where ticket holders aren't showing up even for bigger matches .The FZ area sold out in about two weeks last year.
A ticket there is a privilege, not a right.
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