Grendel
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Oh are we back in Coventry - forgive me I missed that one.
Lol
Oh yes he's done loads !!
Can you point out exactly what he has done to get us back to Cov ?
Because Kcic have done an e-petition, Arsenal match exposure. Ribbons to name just a few !!!
Oh are we back in Coventry - forgive me I missed that one.
Welcome back. Be nice to hear your comments regarding those emails. Or, as most on here desperatly plead, were they "taken out of context"?
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I think we had the real truth in court with no doubt more to come.
Stop trolling and spitting in the face of the club.
Welcome back. Be nice to hear your comments regarding those emails. Or, as most on here desperatly plead, were they "taken out of context"?
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Oh are we back in Coventry - forgive me I missed that one.
Looks to me like you have managed to get a meeting with Joy and have fallen for her spin like others before you have.
So why haven't you posted since we all found out that you haven't spoken to all sides like you said? Why did you try to mislead us? It doesn't make anything that you have said sound believable does it?
We need people that want to be in the spotlight to be truthful to us. Sorry to say but it don't look like you fit the bill. You certainly don't seem independent of all sides.
Asture is right, we need openness and honesty, not someone being in a privileged position asking everyone else to trust them and do as they say.
No we are not !!
So please enlighten me with what Rob S has achieved ?
So in that case CCC shouldn't hide behind the JR and give us some 'openness and honesty'?
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To be fair the same as KCiC and the Trust. Zilch.
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As a group we're calling for negotiations based on independent valuations. Certainly no giveaways!
It's important to consider not only the value of the Ricoh Arena as an asset but the value it brings in to the city. With our football club, concerts and lots of other stadium events back in, it will bring millions more to an area of the city that desperately needs it.
And here is the problem. One side has the club, one side has the stadium. The club side can go and build a new one, the stadium side can do other things with the stadium. In the meantime, our club is playing in a dump 35 miles away.
You know the really annoying thing? We've seen from recent disclosures that the Higgs' share of ACL could have been sold, which would have prevented all this subsequent mess, except that there was an impasse over the value (Higgs wanted £5.5m, Sisu offered £2m after due diligence) and the Council were going to veto the sale anyway.
So now millions are being lost by businesses and business taxes lost to the city.
The Council tried to force Sisu to offload the club and failed. We have a JR coming up to decide the legality of what they did but no matter what the outcome, Sisu still own the club. The club had another 10pts deducted this season in a further attempt to damage the owners and we as fans are being denied the chance of a playoff attempt because of that.
Meanwhile, the income to the city is down by millions because the club isn't there so the city is already out of pocket and that will continue.
For the good of the city, the club, the fans and the owners, a deal needs to be struck. It's a compromise deal to be sure but it is a deal that gets us out of this mess without dragging it on. The city can get an income boost, we get our team back & Sisu get the chance to recoup some of the £millions and move on. Or we can keep squabbling about it all and spend 5 years building a stadium somewhere else whilst our support collapses.
This is why we believe that the Council needs to be held to account for their part. We can hit a business like Sisu in the pocket but with the Council it is at the ballot box.
Ron is the valuation based on it been devalued due to the owners of CCFC failing to run the club well leading to relegation to division three. Then having a rent strike and moving out.
Or is it a valuation based upon a well run club at the ground?
Hold on I thought you said that the place is a Gold mine without the club?
Now are you saying the ground is worth more with the club in it -- and the club has to pay that element even though its only worth it if the club is there? Perhaps ACL should pay the club the difference in valuations to come back?
Hold on I thought you said that the place is a Gold mine without the club?
Now are you saying the ground is worth more with the club in it -- and the club has to pay that element even though its only worth it if the club is there? Perhaps ACL should pay the club the difference in valuations to come back?
I thought it was aiming to break even without the club then try and find other business if the club does not come back.
Is it more valuable or less valuable since SISU took over CCFC?
I wouldn't know but clearly the lower valuation is the correct one as if the club alters the valuation in a positive way then it would effectively be paying twice if it purchased at the higher value. Crazy logic.
I thought it was aiming to break even without the club then try and find other business if the club does not come back.
Is it more valuable or less valuable since SISU took over CCFC?
So has Rob spoke to Higgs /ACL or not?
Rob S is trying to have a sensible discussion. He is one mother most sensible and astute people we have had on here and who recognises what has to be done.
If you can't engage in a sensible way why not just leave the stupid comments eh?
We don't know Grendels newest hero has done a vanashing act !!
I wouldn't know but clearly the lower valuation is the correct one as if the club alters the valuation in a positive way then it would effectively be paying twice if it purchased at the higher value. Crazy logic.
its seems strange that sisu's master plan is distressing acl at the same time as distressing ccfc !!
Is there any company that sisu have a positive effect on ?
Would be very hard a both a businessman or an individual to sell at a lower value to the person you feel caused the value to be lowed.
Out if the business world such action would be deemed as blackmail
It seems like the elephant in the room, and I don't mean sky blue Sam, to me it's fundamental that this question is answered yet no one seems too bothered or not whether it is, everyone's too busy sniping at each other which screws up any real debate.
They guy from Higgs says no, while Rob says yes, which one is being economical with the truth?
It seems like the elephant in the room, and I don't mean sky blue Sam, to me it's fundamental that this question is answered yet no one seems too bothered or not whether it is, everyone's too busy sniping at each other which screws up any real debate.
They guy from Higgs says no, while Rob says yes, which one is being economical with the truth?
Obviously the Ricoh is worth more with a club in it.
CCC would have based there decision to build the stadium (or not) on the income received with a football club in situ.
Added security of a long lease would have eased any concerns.
There is no doubt that ACL would plan to at least break even during the early vulnerable years.
I'm surprised SISU didn't start their plan earlier when ACL were really vulnerable. (Really poor SISU management?)
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