bezzer
Well-Known Member
It's not often I find myself agreeing with you SBJ, but on this I do.
A couple of points i would like to raise. I read the article where does the figure of 7million come from other than the title ?
I don't in principle have a problem with Sisu purchasing the Ricoh for 7 million. Obviously there would be conditions. If they are purchasing the stadium for such a paltry amount then they should except conditions imposed and if not no deal. The conditions would be that the Ricoh and the club are in the same company and can not be split. This will protect the club from paying rent. The other condition is that the Ricoh can not be borrowed against. If these sort of covenants are not put in place what would stop Sisu from charging ccfc high rent. Or worse buy the Ricoh for 7 million one day the next take out a 70million loan against it crippling the club !!!!!!!
I don't want the Council having anything to do with CCFC. Being open minded I see there's more than one villain in this mess, the council being one of them.
Where have I said I accept the mistakes SISU have made? You asked me who I wanted to own the ground. I said I didn't want the council owning it. I don't want SISU owning it either!! But if we want CCFC back in Coventry, in the short term that may have to be the bitter pill we've got to swallow!
As I've said before, show me how we're going to get CCFC back at the Ricoh?
Come on, show me your progressive argument.
The progressive argument is for the the Ricoh lease (freehold is of no use to the club) to belong to the same company as where the golden share sits.
Ccfc should be allowed to purchase acl for the market rate, with various safeguards put in place.
How do other clubs do it? Does every club have the ground in the same company as the playing stuff? Would it be the norm to have it under a management company?
Can't you name and shame?
And if SISU own CCFC, then what?
me and oldskyblue
How do other clubs do it? Does every club have the ground in the same company as the playing stuff? Would it be the norm to have it under a management company?
That wasn't the question. The question was would CCFC own the Ricoh or would it be one of his companies?
The progressive argument is for the the Ricoh lease (freehold is of no use to the club) to belong to the same company as where the golden share sits.
Ccfc should be allowed to purchase acl for the market rate, with various safeguards put in place.
if sisu actually purchased the ground when they first took over, no-one would have said a word. the fact remains sisu paid rent for many a year thinking they were onto a quick earner, that back fired now and they are trying to make ccfc sustainable but for me and many others it’s too late and the damage is done. bit like a girlfriend/wife, cheating over n over again. sooner or later you have enough and tell the slut to do one. tears begin asking for forgiveness but you say enough is enough. sisu very similar, they lied and cheated time n time again and eventually majority have had enough.
Interesting. So others also suspect you are ACL director Peter Knatchbull Hugessen too. Regardless, you are a coward with an agenda, without the guts to put a name to your childish, abusive behaviour
This thread is turning into a CCC/ACL 'Love in'
"Hold your nerve ACL" FFS do you want Cov back in Cov or not??????
I would rather the club as it exists presently fold and we can start again in non-league than we go back to The Ricoh as SISU's tenants. The latter is a fate worse than death.
When SISU decided to do a runner from the Ricoh, there are only 3 possible explanations:
1. They intended to build a new ground but that is increasingly looking like a pipe dream.
2. They were willing to risk everything in an attempt to distress ACL and pick up the Ricoh for free or at a bargain price.
3. They had no idea what they were doing.
Whatever the reason, are people seriously suggesting that a company, so obviously inept and wilfully neglectful of our football club, should be allowed to own the Ricoh?
Given their record up to now, isn’t it obvious that not only would the future of CCFC be in jeopardy but also the future of the only stadium in Coventry capable of hosting major sporting events.
I've said it on the million other threads on this subject in the past and I'll say it again. If PH4 bought CCFC would the Club own it or one of his companies?
leave the forummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
why should he do that ! , oh I've got it, he has an opinion that differs from yours
True. However, we all know that many on the, how can I put it, the ACL "side" do have more than one account to back up their own point-of-view. Would that be a fair comment?
It's the ridiculous scratching of the chin "you must be a SISU plant" paranoia of MMM and others that really annoys. Annoys me anyway.
The "you must be an ACL plant" stuff annoys me, too.
Yeah, it's kind of daft either way.
Also somewhat worrying about how entrenched some people are, that they believe themselves to be RIGHT ON EVERYTHING and thus, in something without certainties, can't conceive of people having a different opinion!
I do nonetheless say this while musing on the irony that (naming no names) a fair few people were determined that because of when i signed up here, I must be in the pay of SISu because I didn;t believe they caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Yeah, it's kind of daft either way.
Also somewhat worrying about how entrenched some people are, that they believe themselves to be RIGHT ON EVERYTHING and thus, in something without certainties, can't conceive of people having a different opinion!
I do nonetheless say this while musing on the irony that (naming no names) a fair few people were determined that because of when i signed up here, I must be in the pay of SISu because I didn;t believe they caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.
why should he do that ! , oh I've got it, he has an opinion that differs from yours
And I remember that I leapt to your defence, despite not always seeing eye-to-eye with you
Oh and as for the concept of plants, why people can't see that if you really wanted to be an ACL plant, you'd post ludicrously OTT pro SISU stuff to wind people up to incredible levels...
You did.
It's why I go easy(ish) on you to this day
Godiva's actually working for ACL? Blimey, I'd never thought of it that way!
Godiva's too balancedIn my weaker moments, I tried to remember when Godiva popped up and if it was when SISU took over but tbh they've gone through so many board members in that time, there'd be no bugger left for him to be consistent! Anyway, what he does offer is a valuable insight into a particular line of thinking, no? Sometimes he raises very good points that I for one hadn't considered, and whether SISU's love child or the Photocopier King, some points he makes are well worth adding into the pot, if we're looking for a way out.
There are one or two who pop up who if you wanted a massive conspiracy theory would fit a template and flash warning lights but...
I'd rather not bother with the paranoia full-stop!
RFC is more pro sisu that Seppalla. Theres your ACL plant!
Let's keep CCFC in Northampton!
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