Fair points FB
But these players have been punching above their weight in most games and none of us expected us to be where we are at this point in the season
Plenty of fans disagree with you about Walker, who I rate btw, but he can go missing in games and you can forget he's on the pitch
Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition who raced into a two goal lead and managed to hold us off for the rest of the game and made a few chances of their own as you'd expect when we're chasing the game
It's not as though we folded like we did at Luton
Swansea also have a good manager who maybe outfoxed Robins on the night
But there's another game on Saturday so let's hope we can get back on track
We were playing with a flat back 5 for large periods of last night. We would have been better of with a back 4 and an extra man in midfield.
100%The situation with Walker is bizarre.
How many years have people been on here banging on about his subs,so frustrating last night leaving walker for that longThis most definitely NOT a post about getting rid of Robins but…
After attending last nights game I feel strongly that Robins (and his team) got it very wrong and their are signs that his tactical nous could be much better.
Firstly tactics-obvious from the start how Swansea lined up by pushing two wingers very very wide and hitting corners. Also Swansea had loads more bodies in midfield allowing them space to pass through and around us.
Point one-although our formation works I feel from time to time Robins needs to start with a different one-a back four or one up top just to make the opposition think for a change.
Point two-obvious to everyone that we have very tired players (who literally ran around chasing shadows for 90 mins) Robins has mentioned this in the past and he did again in post match interviews. So why the fook did Walker come on in the 88 minute and why didn’t O’Hare get taken off. Timely substitutes could have swayed that game. Knowing we have a game on Satdee as well Robins should have brought players off much much earlier. His game and season management could be better.
Only two things but I think quite major ones. We have the shown the ability to maintain a top half finish this season but only if Robins and his team learn from the glaring errors that have led to poor performance.
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Jones has been going well in training from what I've heard, banging in goals in training games and volunteering for the U23s to get game timeSome really good posts FB.
We were playing with a flat back 5 for large periods of last night. We would have been better of with a back 4 and an extra man in midfield.
He definitely got it wrong with Allen, the game bypasses the midfield and there was often a huge hole in there.
We have been pretty average over the last 5 games now, winning only against a really poor Hull side on top of our poor away form yet we have not tried anything different - the box for example.
We seem to have plan A and plan B is just plan A but with like for like replacements.
The Jones sub looked odd, but I thought there were glimpses of a player still which will come with more game time. But we need to find a plan b and a system tweak to get the best out of him.
Robins is our king, but should not be immune to criticism.
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Jones has been going well in training from what I've heard, banging in goals in training games and volunteering for the U23s to get game time
I guess the plan is to bring him in gradually which makes sense
We had quite a few opportunities last night, to put balls through to our strikers. Very poor passes from Hamer & O’hare screwed that up, and we were then back to desperate defending.
quite a few opportunities for balls over the top of their defence when our strikers or AM made good runs, all ignored.
poor crosses from Dabo is another issue.
we won’t win matches against good teams by continually giving the ball away. That’s been a feature of our play a lot this season. We need to improve our passing a lot to become a better team.
In that case you would expect him to have appeared in the last 10 minutes of games we are already in control of not in a critical game such as this when we were chasing it
The situation with Walker is bizarre.
Agreement ? I think they use loaned players as part of the cost goes down the more they play he’s not set in stone to play if fitNot really - Robins doesn't rate him and he's 4th choice - the extension of Goddens contract was totally illogical but very telling
Its the same with Rose, he won't get a look in especially if Clarke Salter is required to play games as per a loan agreement - Hyam is undroppable
Agreement ? I think they use loaned players as part of the cost goes down the more they play he’s not set in stone to play if fit
Yeah Godden’s extension was strange, unless it’s with a view to selling him and getting a fee next summer.Not really - Robins doesn't rate him and he's 4th choice - the extension of Goddens contract was totally illogical but very telling
Its the same with Rose, he won't get a look in especially if Clarke Salter is required to play games as per a loan agreement - Hyam is undroppable
No one knows the arrangements but clubs want players to get game time or the wage contribution gets higher and we may have decided we do not want a higher wage contribution so he and Maatsen will start when fit and available
Yeah Godden’s extension was strange, unless it’s with a view to selling him and getting a fee next summer.
The issue was the midfield.
Both Allen and O'Hare would push up and we would lose it, they would instantly go on the counter attack which left Hamer outnumbered.
Usually when we have Sheaf or Kelly and Hamer then they can go side to side and help fill in with the wing backs a bit.
Yep, Hamer spent the whole game in midfield on his own being outnumbered while Allen just ran around all over the place getting bypassed
Kelly should have been nowhere near the team last nightStay calm, we are 4th and punching above our rank.
Hamer, O’Hare and the forwards were poor last night IMO, running on empty and in Hamer‘s case an early booking ended his positive contribution, as it tends to happen once booked. I don’t think he’s brilliant.
A night where Kelly should have been in. Gyokeres is not on his game at all. Moore was shaky possibly because of what was going on in front of him.
A night where the 2nd goal was offside and the officials were poor, the linesmen had no idea about who should get throw ins and there were several foul throws from both teams and the ref was inept throughout.
Win on Saturday and we are back on track.
Some really good posts FB.
We were playing with a flat back 5 for large periods of last night. We would have been better of with a back 4 and an extra man in midfield.
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I don't get Robins comments about Jones, what did he expect throwing him in at CM?
Substitutions have been an issue for years, even in League 2.
What did he say about jones ?I don't get Robins comments about Jones, what did he expect throwing him in at CM?
Substitutions have been an issue for years, even in League 2.
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