I think that OSB reiterated that what was asked for by the club, but rejected by ACL 18 months ago has now been accepted by ACL.
Selective reading is rife on this site.
Oh the irony.
The rules stated that clubs must have a minimum 10 year rolling contract. Were ACL wrong to offer a 10 year rolling contract?
When the 10 year offer was made Appleton was supposed to be running and making all decisions about our club. The ioffer was made to Appleton. Was this wrong?
The FL had talks with ACL. The FL then tried to broker a deal over 3 seasons to bring us home. Fisher said it was a good offer. Joy said no. Was ACL or the FL at fault?
I would add selective facts as well as selective reading.
And? The rent returns back to £1.3 million for the next 8 years.
I think he is on about from the Trust Q and A from before we left? When ACL turned down the short deal?
They did as it wasn't allowed by the FL rules at the time.
And we all know that the FL have bent the rules for SISU. Like when we could sign players when in admin the last time. They have tried to do things to help, but have added to our pain at times.
Did they say that it was no because of those rules or have they told you that in private?
So the rule of clubs needing a minimum of a ten year rolling contract meant nothing did it? We all saw it in writing at the time.
So the rule of clubs needing a minimum of a ten year rolling contract meant nothing did it? We all saw it in writing at the time.
So is that why ACL turned it down? I am not saying there was no rule, but where has it been said that is why they turned it down?
Seems quite obvious to me. Why would they agree to something not allowed at the time? The first time that an offer of less than ten years was made was when ACL had talks with the FL. The FL made the offer to SISU. It was the offer that SISU were after. Joy then turned it down. Does that not tell you that SISU were after something they knew couldn't happen? And when it suddenly could they didn't want it anymore.
To me it was all part of the plan of taking our club out of Coventry whilst blaming others for it happening.
You could argue ACL should have compromised more but so could CCFC.
Of course they should, there's little defence for either party.
But how are we going to move forward with a culture that looks back to the halcyon days of no talking and breakdowns in trust?
Given there was a limited deal on offer for Northampton, it was pretty clear that there was the opportunity to make a limited deal in the right city.
As has, indeed, been proven.
There's no defence for either party acting like obdurate cocks, none whatsoever... and both indeed have.
But looking forward they're both somewhat cowed, and more keen to chat so how about we focus on that, rather than defending their past efforts to ensure no deal was reached.
. You can point the finger at ACL for not offering the terms along the lines now agreed, I can certainly accept people may look at it that way, but the question I have is with the benefit of hindsight are we sure SISU would have agreed to it? Did such a deal suit either sides objectives in January 2013 - most probably not
Think you and I both agree it is essential to look forward and to work honestly towards a proper solution ....... raking up the past to apportion blame is not going to change what needs to be done. There are opportunities available will the parties look to take them ................
I actually see compromise on certain elements as a good thing.
A little late, undoubtedly(!) but nonetheless, a good thing.
Isn't this what we've been asking for, for God knows how long?
I actually see compromise on certain elements as a good thing.
A little late, undoubtedly(!) but nonetheless, a good thing.
Isn't this what we've been asking for, for God knows how long?
Think you and I both agree it is essential to look forward and to work honestly towards a proper solution ....... raking up the past to apportion blame is not going to change what needs to be done. There are opportunities available will the parties look to take them ................
It's been a bitter fight and I wonder if the parties are ready to go back to the table to restart negotiations that should lead to the club owning ACL?
The agreement leaves both sides in much stronger financial positions. The club has a significant reduced cost base (including lower player wages) and ACL has a better mortgage deal. If nothing else both the club and ACL now stand on much improved financial foundations and both could be profitable going forward.
It's been a bitter fight and I wonder if the parties are ready to go back to the table to restart negotiations that should lead to the club owning ACL?
Obviously Sisu thought they were going to win the JR. Only when that ship sailed they were prepared to negotiate.
Whilst we have the feel good factor and maybe decent gates is this not an opportunity for Sisu to sell up ?
I can't see them obtaining Acl or the Ricoh.
I think that we may have to wait and see how the next two years of the two year deal go first before anything like that happens to be honest.
The agreement leaves both sides in much stronger financial positions. The club has a significant reduced cost base (including lower player wages) and ACL has a better mortgage deal. If nothing else both the club and ACL now stand on much improved financial foundations and both could be profitable going forward.
It's been a bitter fight and I wonder if the parties are ready to go back to the table to restart negotiations that should lead to the club owning ACL?
Hey, maybe they are not Turkeys anymore?
Did they become an eagle?
Ah, but there's no time is there?
The deal at the Ricoh is a temporary deal, so I would think it doesn't really change the 3-5 year time limit set by the FL to find the future solution. If the council and Higgs won't sell ACL I suppose the club will have to build a new stadium. How long till the FL says 'stop, do a long term deal with ACL or face expulsion from the leagues'?
Are we talking about the same Football League here?
Not exactly sold the rights to Compass, as OSB said they set up a joint venture, called IEC, which they sold 23% of to compass, for about £4million I think.
This thread demonstrates perfectly what Mr Fisher brings to our club.
Nothing constructive.
Not exactly sold the rights to Compass, as OSB said they set up a joint venture, called IEC, which they sold 23% of to compass, for about £4million I think.
Even more reason to buy into ACL then ?
It also clearly demonstrates than people do NOT want to ``just talk about the football``
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