Fleck is evidence how clueless we are (1 Viewer)

Grendel · Jan 31, 2015

I don't think I've started a negative thread about a player before but to me he just looks worse every game.

Today was shocking - does he ever pass to a CCFC player?

The real point though is Waggot and Pressley agreed to this guy extending his contract. Why? Who would want him anyway?

Christ these two clowns will be giving Jackson a 3 year deal next.

Waggot and Pressley haven't a clue about signing players. Shut the pair of them in a dark room - give them the Lugar and put them out of our misery.

Evo1883 · Jan 31, 2015

Yes his passing was poor throughout really , he just doesnt seem the same player anymore , i would love to know what his instructions for the match are from pressley

Samo · Jan 31, 2015

CraigSBA said:
Yes his passing was poor throughout really , he just doesnt seem the same player
anymore , i would love to know what his instructions for the match are from pressley

Play him where he likes to play, let him off the leash, then judge him.

stupot07 · Jan 31, 2015

Samo said:
Play him where he likes to play, let him off the leash, then judge him.

Where is that then? He seems to like playing deep as he gets more time on the ball.

If Mark Robins took over tomorrow, he would i immediately go out sign 2 midfielders and Fleck wouldn't be anywhere near the starting line up.

He's living off his past reputation, however the idea of fleck is greater than reality of fleck.

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dongonzalos · Jan 31, 2015

stupot07 said:
Where is that then? He seems to like playing deep as he gets more time on the ball.

If Mark Robins took over tomorrow, he would i immediately go out sign 2 midfielders and Fleck wouldn't be anywhere near the starting line up.

He's living off his past reputation, however the idea of fleck is greater than reality of fleck.

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Beside a tough tacking hard midfielder and his remit should be go forward and create.

It's not that complicated two wingers
Fleck and JOB competing for the creative midfielder role and a nasty so and so beside one of them.

If you want evidence of how clueless we our, then it is the releasing of Carl Baker not the passing of Fleck

tisza · Jan 31, 2015

stupot07 said:
Where is that then? He seems to like playing deep as he gets more time on the ball.

but then doesn't use it very well when he has that

stupot07 · Jan 31, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Beside a tough tacking hard midfielder and his remit should be go forward and create.

It's not that complicated two wingers
Fleck and JOB competing for the creative midfielder role and a nasty so and so beside one if them.

If you want evidence if how clueless we our this is it the releasing of Carl Baker not the passing of Fleck

We've not seen fleck be creative for his entire ccfc career.

And I'm not sure what Baker has to do with how woeful fleck was today, and actually how poor he has been in general for over a year now.

Swanson plays well, wins a pen = get dropped
Thomas plays distinctly average = gets dropped
Barton plays ok for 5-6 games -= gets dropped
Tudguy has a stormer and scores = gets dropped
Fleck has a run of poor form/has a stinker= guaranteed starter

There comes a time when we need to accept 1) he's not the type of player we thought he was and 2) he's not as good as we thought he was. For me he is by far the most overrated player we have.

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shy_tall_knight · Jan 31, 2015

Fleck telegraphs a lot of his crossfield passes one in the second half was easily intercepted and lead to a dangerous counter attack. Simply overrated a midfield containing Fleck & Finch is always going to struggle.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 31, 2015

stupot07 said:
We've not seen fleck be creative for his entire ccfc career.

And I'm not sure what Baker has to do with how woeful fleck was today, and actually how poor he has been in general for over a year now.

Swanson plays well, wins a pen = get dropped
Thomas plays distinctly average = gets dropped
Barton plays ok for 5-6 games -= gets dropped
Tudguy has a stormer and scores = gets dropped
Fleck has a run of poor form/has a stinker= guaranteed starter

There comes a time when we need to accept 1) he's not the type of player we thought he was and 2) he's not as good as we thought he was. For me he is by far the most overrated player we have.

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Don't forget Webster, plays awful for 18 months= vice captain

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 31, 2015

Can't believe people were worried about losing him

speedie87 · Jan 31, 2015

For me fleck is one of our best players every week. If we played him further forward and had runners in behind he could thread balls forward to he'd look even better. We never have runners in behind he can thread through balls to ,between centre half sand full backs.

Jim o'brien gives the ball away much more often

torchomatic · Jan 31, 2015

Not sure how you can blame Pressley (apart from picking him). I'm sure Pressley's instructions aren't "John, try and give the ball away when you can. Make even the simplest pass an impossibility".

CraigSBA said:
Yes his passing was poor throughout really , he just doesnt seem the same player anymore , i would love to know what his instructions for the match are from pressley

torchomatic · Jan 31, 2015

Really? Each to their own obviously, but Fleck for me is piss poor. Can't pass, can't tackle, never takes the game by the scruff of the neck. O'Brien is head and shoulders above him. I'd be more than happy to get a bit of money for Fleck and let him go.

speedie87 said:
For me fleck is one of our best players every week. If we played him further forward and had runners in behind he could thread balls forward to he'd look even better. We never have runners in behind he can thread through balls to ,between centre half sand full backs.

Jim o'brien gives the ball away much more often

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 31, 2015

torchomatic said:
Not sure how you can blame Pressley (apart from picking him). I'm sure Pressley's instructions aren't "John, try and give the ball away when you can. Make even the simplest pass an impossibility".

No his instructions are don't get ahead of the ball, you might accidentally get into an attacking position and score a goal

Terry Gibson's perm · Jan 31, 2015

Fleck passes the ball well if it is sideways or backwards and short as soon as it goes forward it tends to go to the opposition.

dongonzalos · Jan 31, 2015

stupot07 said:
We've not seen fleck be creative for his entire ccfc career.

And I'm not sure what Baker has to do with how woeful fleck was today, and actually how poor he has been in general for over a year now.

Swanson plays well, wins a pen = get dropped
Thomas plays distinctly average = gets dropped
Barton plays ok for 5-6 games -= gets dropped
Tudguy has a stormer and scores = gets dropped
Fleck has a run of poor form/has a stinker= guaranteed starter

There comes a time when we need to accept 1) he's not the type of player we thought he was and 2) he's not as good as we thought he was. For me he is by far the most overrated player we have.

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Agree with all your points apart from the last
Which is what people said about baker, cody, Jordan Clarke
They all go off and do well elsewhere. Wrong systems and playing styles. Decent players

4waspsting · Jan 31, 2015

Ha Ha Ha Ha What You've what given him a new contract, you cunts

stupot07 · Jan 31, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Agree with all your points apart from the last
Which is what people said about baker, cody, Jordan Clarke
They all go off and do well elsewhere. Wrong systems and playing styles. Decent players

People have also said the same about ROD, Platt, Brown, Julien Gray, Malaga, edge, Thornton, barry quinn, elliot, boozy, hughes, de Zeux, the list goes on and on.....

I liked clarke but he's hardly gone on to prove us wrong, baker was paid too much otherwise would still be here and he's hardly proved us wrong - he scored goals here and is doing the same at MK Dons, I'll give you cody, however he wouldn't fit with SP's tippy tappy bollocks that he's tried to play for 2 years.

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skybluedan · Jan 31, 2015

Ain't he the scottish Rooney

CCFC_Charlie · Jan 31, 2015

Pressley has his favourites, Webster, Fleck and arguably O'Brien too. Wonder what they all have in common...

Hobo · Jan 31, 2015

CraigSBA said:
Yes his passing was poor throughout really , he just doesnt seem the same player anymore , i would love to know what his instructions for the match are from pressley

If Pressley was really as clueless and unrespected by the players as people on her make out. If he was trying to suppress my talent so much to the detriment of the team and my reputation; I don't think I could be that subservient on the pitch.

Samo · Jan 31, 2015

Hobo said:
If Pressley was really as clueless and unrespected by the players as people on her make out. If he
was trying to suppress my talent so much to the detriment of the team and my reputation; I don't think I could be that subservient on the pitch.

Thanks for sharing

ccfc92 · Jan 31, 2015

I really don't know about Fleck.

He's highly rated and on paper a good player. But has never done it for CCFC.

Could guarantee if he left though, he'd become a different player :facepalm: but it'd be worth getting a fee for him IMO, then SP will HAVE to bring in a good CM

Samo · Jan 31, 2015

Like what happened with the Wilson money?

ccfc92 · Jan 31, 2015

Samo said:
Like what happened with the Wilson money?

I didn't want to make that point and turn the thread into where has our income gone....

But I 100% agree

skybluedan · Jan 31, 2015

CCFC_Charlie said:
Pressley has his favourites, Webster, Fleck and arguably O'Brien too. Wonder what they all have in common...

There all cunts?

pusbccfc · Feb 1, 2015

Our wonderful midfield of Swanson, Fleck and JOB are on the lash tonight.

Astute · Feb 1, 2015

A player like Fleck is good to have in a team. He can hold onto the ball whilst players get forward then start an attack. The problem is that we don't seem to like starting attacks. We have too many defence minded midfielders. This makes them all look shite. How can anyone look good just trying to keep hold of the ball and not go anywhere or do anything with it?

Hobo · Feb 1, 2015

Confidence? Not prepared to take risks? Everyone making safe passes? Everyone happy just to look okay?

wingy · Feb 1, 2015

CCFC_Charlie said:
Pressley has his favourites, Webster, Fleck and arguably O'Brien too. Wonder what they all have in common...

Indeed we currently have a multi-cultural blend to the team
Reflective of current society

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