Formations Next Season (1 Viewer)

BlueSkiesForever · May 10, 2024

Just wondering what everyone’s thoughts are for formations next season?

I’ve been wondering whether a 4-4-2 could work well for nearly all our players? I think Sheaf is best when he’s not the sole DM and also think it would suit Van Ewijk, Torp and Mason-Clark.

Wright, Simms
Mason-Clark, Sheaf, Torp, Sakamoto
Bidwell, Kitching, Thomas, Van Ewijk
New GK

Thoughts?

ProfessorbyGrace · May 10, 2024

Forgive my lack of tact here, but isn’t it a bit fecking early to be planning formations when we’ve just hit pre-season?

Anything can happen in the next few months…Sheaf may not even be here, and Bidwell has been rumoured to be off for a while now.

Hobo · May 10, 2024

Why are we trying to discuss this? Let's wait and see what our targets are and which ones we land.

Hincha · May 10, 2024

Don't see 4-4-2 personally. Looks far too attacking.

We'll continue to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 next season.

EMC & Wright can rotate LW - a lot of top teams now have 4 quality wingers to replace both on 60 minutes against tiring fullbacks.

Winny the Bish · May 10, 2024

Does anyone play 4-4-2 anymore?

I think a change is coming, just based on what Robins said in his end of season interview. Not worth trying to guess what it is until we make some more signings and see where they fit.

messiahrobins · May 10, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Just wondering what everyone’s thoughts are for formations next season?

I’ve been wondering whether a 4-4-2 could work well for nearly all our players? I think Sheaf is best when he’s not the sole DM and also think it would suit Van Ewijk, Torp and Mason-Clark.

Wright, Simms
Mason-Clark, Sheaf, Torp, Sakamoto
Bidwell, Kitching, Thomas, Van Ewijk
New GK

Thoughts?

About spot on but Sheaf will be gone and Eccles will be in his position.

David O'Day · May 11, 2024

Winny the Bish said:
Does anyone play 4-4-2 anymore?

I think a change is coming, just based on what Robins said in his end of season interview. Not worth trying to guess what it is until we make some more signings and see where they fit.

Villa have done quite a bit

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 11, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Just wondering what everyone’s thoughts are for formations next season?

I’ve been wondering whether a 4-4-2 could work well for nearly all our players? I think Sheaf is best when he’s not the sole DM and also think it would suit Van Ewijk, Torp and Mason-Clark.

Wright, Simms
Mason-Clark, Sheaf, Torp, Sakamoto
Bidwell, Kitching, Thomas, Van Ewijk
New GK

Thoughts?

There's always an excuse for Sheaf. He is the most overrated player we've had for about 20 years. If there's a buyer for a good fee then sell him. The ridiculous fees people are talking about can go a good distance to building our team for next season.

SBT · May 11, 2024

When it’s 2am on a Friday night, but someone’s suggested a formation that involves Ben Sheaf

Saddlebrains · May 11, 2024

433 and 442

skybluegod · May 11, 2024

ProfessorbyGrace said:
Forgive my lack of tact here, but isn’t it a bit fecking early to be planning formations when we’ve just hit pre-season?

Anything can happen in the next few months…Sheaf may not even be here, and Bidwell has been rumoured to be off for a while now.

Hobo said:
Why are we trying to discussing this? Let's wait and see what our targets are and which ones we land.

Have two people really asked why somebody is trying to discuss football on the forum? Gonna be a long fucking 2/3 months if people don't want to discuss such things.

Robins will be recruiting to the formation he wants to play, not the other way around. It may change should things fail, but he will be doing exactly what the OP is doing and thinking how does he want to set up.

BlueSkiesForever · May 11, 2024

messiahrobins said:
About spot on but Sheaf will be gone and Eccles will be in his position.

I really hope Eccles isn’t still a regular starter next season, especially if he’d be taking over Sheaf’s role, he’s really not good enough for such an important position.

Eccles is one of those players that works hard and is very consistent but never has any end product and doesn’t have enough vision or skill to be able to create the sort of chances we need in order to win games 3-0 or 4-0. I really hope we get an upgrade on his position next season.

JimmyHillsbeard · May 11, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Wright, Simms
Mason-Clark, Sheaf, Torp, Sakamoto
Bidwell, Kitching, Thomas, Van Ewijk
New GK

Thoughts?

I think your team is upside down.
You’ve presented them running away from you rather than towards you.

TomRad85 · May 11, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
433 and 442

You mean like a flat 3, not with a 10, right?

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ProfessorbyGrace · May 11, 2024

skybluegod said:
Have two people really asked why somebody is trying to discuss football on the forum? Gonna be a long fucking 2/3 months if people don't want to discuss such things.

Robins will be recruiting to the formation he wants to play, not the other way around. It may change should things fail, but he will be doing exactly what the OP is doing and thinking how does he want to set up.

Yes, I was asking why the OP wanted to discuss formations, when the season has only just finished, and we will invariably lose/acquire players in the first 11. Which will, you know, affect any plans made for specific formations with specific players in mind.

Flap around all you want, join in if you must, I found it worthy of a rebuke. So calm down.

Sick Boy · May 11, 2024

ProfessorbyGrace said:
Yes, I was asking why the OP wanted to discuss formations, when the season has only just finished, and we will invariably lose/acquire players in the first 11. Which will, you know, affect any plans made for specific formations with specific players in mind.

Flap around all you want, join in if you must, I found it worthy of a rebuke. So calm down.

Good to see the arguments are starting nice and early - good effort.

PVA · May 11, 2024

Winny the Bish said:
Does anyone play 4-4-2 anymore?

It's coming back into fashion a bit more, especially out of possession.

wingy · May 11, 2024

Sick Boy said:
Good to see the arguments are starting nice and early - good effort.

IDK there's enough blue on blue going on in the standing and fz prices thread!

BlueSkiesForever · May 11, 2024

JimmyHillsbeard said:
I think your team is upside down.
You’ve presented them running away from you rather than towards you.

No I think it’s the right way up? Strikers at the top, GK at the bottom?

Hincha · May 11, 2024

PVA said:
It's coming back into fashion a bit more, especially out of possession.

Can see us being very effective playing a 4-3-3 with a 4-4-2 out of possession shape. Even before signings we could play:

In possession:

Eccles - Sheaf - Torp
Saka - Simms - Wright

Out of possession:

Saka - Eccles - Sheaf- Torp
Simms - Wright

BlueSkiesForever · May 11, 2024

ProfessorbyGrace said:
Yes, I was asking why the OP wanted to discuss formations, when the season has only just finished, and we will invariably lose/acquire players in the first 11. Which will, you know, affect any plans made for specific formations with specific players in mind.

Flap around all you want, join in if you must, I found it worthy of a rebuke. So calm down.

I was just wondering if people thought that the formations we tried this season were any good or not? I also can’t see us buying a shit load of players for some reason, I reckon at most we’ll get a new LB, new GK, new CB and maybe a midfielder or two but I don’t see how that really changes how we set up. I think you can discuss tactics before we know all our signings tbh, our team is really not going to change that much, particularly with the way Doug wants the club to be a successful business.

shmmeee · May 11, 2024

Think we’d need a lot more quality int he middle to get away with 442 TBH

JimmyHillsbeard · May 11, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
No I think it’s the right way up? Strikers at the top, GK at the bottom?

I start counting with 1, so keeper at the top…

If you’re going thru the team news would you start with the strikers?

It’s a flippant point but you’re on the same side as Clive who will frequently name the left back before the right back when running thru a team.

skybluecam · May 11, 2024

Wright’s looked better playing as a winger/wide forward than centrally.

I hope we stick to 433, but could either be a more flat 3 (eg Sheaf Torp Eccles) or a more attacking mid in there.

It also means we can ease EMC in.

If we want to play a 442 I think we’d need a new all action centre mid to play alongside Sheaf.

fatso · May 11, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Just wondering what everyone’s thoughts are for formations next season?

I’ve been wondering whether a 4-4-2 could work well for nearly all our players? I think Sheaf is best when he’s not the sole DM and also think it would suit Van Ewijk, Torp and Mason-Clark.

Wright, Simms
Mason-Clark, Sheaf, Torp, Sakamoto
Bidwell, Kitching, Thomas, Van Ewijk
New GK

Thoughts?

With EMC primarily being a wide left player and Sakamoto being wide right, it leaves a massive amount of space in the middle of the park for Sheaf and Torp to cover, personally I'd sooner see another attacking midfielder in there instead of 2 out and out strikers.

ProfessorbyGrace · May 11, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
I was just wondering if people thought that the formations we tried this season were any good or not? I also can’t see us buying a shit load of players for some reason, I reckon at most we’ll get a new LB, new GK, new CB and maybe a midfielder or two but I don’t see how that really changes how we set up. I think you can discuss tactics before we know all our signings tbh, our team is really not going to change that much, particularly with the way Doug wants the club to be a successful business.

Fair enough, I was just giving my opinion, that I thought it might be a bit early for planning to have certain players etc.

messiahrobins · May 11, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
I really hope Eccles isn’t still a regular starter next season, especially if he’d be taking over Sheaf’s role, he’s really not good enough for such an important position.

Eccles is one of those players that works hard and is very consistent but never has any end product and doesn’t have enough vision or skill to be able to create the sort of chances we need in order to win games 3-0 or 4-0. I really hope we get an upgrade on his position next season.

He is a holding midfielder. His job is to protect the back four not create per se although this season he has at times been asked to do that more.
Eccles is a top player and we are lucky to have him.

BlueSkiesForever · May 12, 2024

messiahrobins said:
He is a holding midfielder. His job is to protect the back four not create per se although this season he has at times been asked to do that more.
Eccles is a top player and we are lucky to have him.

Fair enough, I get that Eccles has some qualities but I just don’t rate him, I think he’s okay at most things but not brilliant at anything.

I’m not saying our midfielders should be able to score 40 yard wonder-goals but his shooting is pretty poor when a key opportunity presents itself. I don’t have anything personal against the guy, he seems like a nice bloke and works really hard but I think if we want to be solidly in the top 4 next season then we should be aiming to do better than “feeling lucky to have him”. (I know loads on here will disagree with me but that’s sound, I just genuinely think we can/need to do better.)

wingy · May 12, 2024

Disagree, IMO he has a superb technique if an opportunity presents itself, much more than Sheaf's TBF,the latter may get more from taking the opportunity though or maybe Eccles plays to instructions

clint van damme · May 12, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Fair enough, I get that Eccles has some qualities but I just don’t rate him, I think he’s okay at most things but not brilliant at anything.

I’m not saying our midfielders should be able to score 40 yard wonder-goals but his shooting is pretty poor when a key opportunity presents itself. I don’t have anything personal against the guy, he seems like a nice bloke and works really hard but I think if we want to be solidly in the top 4 next season then we should be aiming to do better than “feeling lucky to have him”. (I know loads on here will disagree with me but that’s sound, I just genuinely think we can/need to do better.)

Eccles has been an integral part of 2 fairly successful seasons, he's also a very good RWB.

To say you don't want him to take the Sheaf role is like saying you don't want him in goal, it won't even be considered.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 12, 2024

clint van damme said:
Eccles has been an integral part of 2 fairly successful seasons, he's also a very good RWB.

To say you don't want him to take the Sheaf role is like saying you don't want him in goal, it won't even be considered.

I don't know, compared to Collins...

messiahrobins · May 12, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Fair enough, I get that Eccles has some qualities but I just don’t rate him, I think he’s okay at most things but not brilliant at anything.

I’m not saying our midfielders should be able to score 40 yard wonder-goals but his shooting is pretty poor when a key opportunity presents itself. I don’t have anything personal against the guy, he seems like a nice bloke and works really hard but I think if we want to be solidly in the top 4 next season then we should be aiming to do better than “feeling lucky to have him”. (I know loads on here will disagree with me but that’s sound, I just genuinely think we can/need to do better.)

As long as he shields that back 4 well, i dont care if he gets 0 goals and 0 assists. Eccles-Sheaf-Torp would win us the league as a midfield 3 but i think we will lose Sheaf.

Littlewood CCFC · May 14, 2024

Personally think we should stick to 4-2-3-1 and think that's what Robin's will start with on the opening day. Will be interesting to see who bring in to replace O'hare in the Number 10 role - Could be the difference as i don't think Palmers a starter next season

covboy9 · May 14, 2024

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
There's always an excuse for Sheaf. He is the most overrated player we've had for about 20 years. If there's a buyer for a good fee then sell him. The ridiculous fees people are talking about can go a good distance to building our team for next season.

Sell him to Ipswich get morsy as part of the deal and sell palmer that’s a good start

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