Not one person has said that
Not one person has said thatIt's easier to pretend robins was victim of a evil master plan from king and redknapp as it then suits the posters wanting to hate the new manager
Very childish
Spot on.People saying he achieved on par with expectations as if that's a bad thing...
We are UNDERACHIEVING. Robins was sacked for that. He wasn't sacked 'for' Lampard. Another phrase being used that's doing my head in. He was sacked, and if it's Lampard chosen to do the job then back him.
If he manages to 'perform to par' which I think most would say is playoffs, then I'd say surely that's a good thing?
Back the staff, back the players, back the club. If not willing to do the above, stop calling yourself a supporter. Look up the definition of the word.
Like I said only looking at negatives
He achieved 4th with a transfer ban and promoted slot of youth due to this. There are positives too.
If you can't see both sides of coin after what I've said I really don't know what else to say
Owners playthings, not necessarily on the managers wish list, interesting to see how many of those signings were sought by Frank Lampard , managing your own expectations is arguably easier than managing a ruthless owners.How are the expectations unrealistic when you spend 200 million on players each season?
Don't concern yourself with extreme pro lampard posters. Fact is he hasn't had a great career but there is potential there we have to have hope blossoms with us.I think His managerial careers been poor, nothings going to change that. There's posts I put up in the Premier league thread saying the same thing from ages ago so this is nothing to do with him replacing Robins.
I honestly don't care, hes coming, I'll get behind him and hope things click for him and us but I just can't understand these attempts to make out his career has been decent.
Like I said earlier, if he was going to Leicester half the people bigging him up would be laughing about it.
I think it's fair to say that frank had a good team at chelsea irrespective of the transfer ban . He also was massively outperformed by tuchel in the same season 38 points to 26 from the same number of games and tuchel didn't have a window .I think His managerial careers been poor, nothings going to change that. There's posts I put up in the Premier league thread saying the same thing from ages ago so this is nothing to do with him replacing Robins.
I honestly don't care, hes coming, I'll get behind him and hope things click for him and us but I just can't understand these attempts to make out his career has been decent.
Like I said earlier, if he was going to Leicester half the people bigging him up would be laughing about it.
Who would have been your choice ?I think His managerial careers been poor, nothings going to change that. There's posts I put up in the Premier league thread saying the same thing from ages ago so this is nothing to do with him replacing Robins.
I honestly don't care, hes coming, I'll get behind him and hope things click for him and us but I just can't understand these attempts to make out his career has been decent.
Like I said earlier, if he was going to Leicester half the people bigging him up would be laughing about it.
Who would have been your choice ?
Who would have been your choice ?
Looks like we have missed out on UNKNOWN so we need to look elsewhere mateSo you can pretend you think they’re worse?
People have given you loads of other options even though you know they aren’t professional scouts. Boring now. You think Lampard is a good manager. Most in and out of the club don’t.
Looks like we have missed out on UNKNOWN so we need to look elsewhere mate
What’s unknowns win rateWhen people prefer UNKNOWN to your favourite manager it might be time to have a sit down and a long think about your self proclaimed great football knowledge.
So you can pretend you think they’re worse?
People have given you loads of other options even though you know they aren’t professional scouts. Boring now. You think Lampard is a good manager. Most in and out of the club don’t.
What’s unknowns win rate
Yes due to his management? He’s hardly had a budget except for the last 2 yearsWas it? Since promotion we’ve never struggled to compete
You seem to want a manager who’s won loads of things at the highest level. Well a manager like that is not going to be interested in us..
How are you getting that from what has been said? Genuinely.
100% not one person has said that.How are you getting that from what has been said? Genuinely.
100% not one person has said that.
That's not the criticism. Its that it wasn't the huge achievement you and others are trying to make out. It was par for the squad he had. Since that season he has been in decline, sacked by Chelsea, took Everton from 16th in the league to 19th in the league and sacked as the second worst manager in their history, and then an abject caretaker stint where he got 1 win and 2 draws in 9 PL games, followed by sitting on his arse for 18 months.Because the criticism of Lampard is he didn’t win anything at Chelsea
What I see in this post is you agreeing with those that you are disagreeing with.Don't concern yourself with extreme pro lampard posters. Fact is he hasn't had a great career but there is potential there we have to have hope blossoms with us.
Not that im doing a good job ignoring the extreme anti king posters mind you
Because the criticism of Lampard is he didn’t win anything at Chelsea
What I see in this post is you agreeing with those that you are disagreeing with.
A fair few of us are not going to join the happy clappers club for the potential Lampard has. We have reservations on if he is the right person for the job. We're also not saying Lampard would fail with us. The truth is nobody knows how it will go.
If Lampard is announced I hope he is given long enough to change things. Safety this season should be our first aim. Then next season is when he should be judged. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if those that are making things up to defend Lampard unnecessary are among the first to get on his back if results don't improve quickly.
Did he finish in 2nd with both clubs?People have said he’s not had a good career.
The only way his career at Derby and Chelsea could’ve been better was to win something
That's not the criticism. Its that it wasn't the huge achievement you and others are trying to make out. It was par for the squad he had. Since that season he has been in decline, sacked by Chelsea, took Everton from 16th in the league to 19th in the league and sacked as the second worst manager in their history, and then an abject caretaker stint where he got 1 win and 2 draws in 9 PL games, followed by sitting on his arse for 18 months.
Sorry if I don't want a manager on the decline, and would prefer someone with some relative recent success who's career is on the up.
We're basically saying that whilst we have spunked £40m on players, we can't afford to go and poach an up coming manager from another team and have to recruit someone who has been out of a job (following multiple) failures.
I don't want to go back to the days of constantly changing managers.He’s got thirty games! Like fuck is safety the aim. If we finish 17th I’d fully expect King to sack him.
Nope. The minimum expectation at a club like Chelsea is champions league football. Lampard achieved that with them in the first season, but it was what the club would have expected. Had they not finished 4th they probably would have sacked him that summerBut using that argument it means Chelsea have had no good managers over the last 20 years
Did he finish in 2nd with both clubs?
Robins took over a side about to be relegated. Promotions, Wembley trips and penalties away from getting to the Prem. The only time we didn't improve our league position in 7 seasons was when we had a small squad and were a toenail away from beating Manchester United at Wembley.No one is saying it was a great achievement. Just that it was decent for a young manager.
46 year old Frank Lampard has a far better record than 46 year old Mark Robins
You said he could only have done better if he won something.Would 2nd in the PL be success but 4th is failure?
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