Brighton Sky Blue
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Get back to work Tim.
This isn't fair. We're paying triple fo what the top Championship clubs are. Why didn't we just stay at Highfield Road until we had the money to build a stadium and actually own it? ACL are knobheads. They're overcharging us, not giving us any revenue form matchdays and they're holding us to ransom over that shitty stadium. Everyone else gets at least 50% of revenue from match days. Why not us?
wtf u on about? lolzGet back to work Tim.
It's not all one-sided. Regardless of whether SISU took on the already-agreed £1.2M a year payments, it is obvious to everyone and their cat that a club like us, in our position with our fan base CANNOT afford to pay such a rent. If we were full to the rafters every week then fair enough, but we're not and we're not likely to be - unless we can get a draw at WHL. The club SHOULD be able to renegotiate and ACL should AGREE to that. SISUs mistake was to withhold their payments while negotiations took place, stupid.
Interesting though that we will still end up paying ACL £250K a year on a match-by-match basis still more than all L1 and most Championship clubs. So CCFC are still paying something.
Personally I am, as always, on the side of the Football Club.
Sisu took on the contract. Correct.
SISU now do not want to honour their obligations. Correct.
We are now in league 1, so the rent is now relatively expensive. Who takes the main blame for our league 1 status. SISU.
We have ver low crowds making the rent expensive. Who takes the majority blame for that - SISU.
Despite all the above ACL partly owned by a charity and partly owned by your and mine council tax money.
Were running a successful business. SISU's bad business decisions have created the problem. Yet a charity and the council in good faith enter negotiations.
SISU get bullying withholding the rent. Ruining a profitable business affecting people's lives and jobs.
Pretty much saying you ate the council and a charity you won't have the balls to be the bad guy and close the football club.
This was a negotiation ACL offered 50% off. A very good offer considering they were blackmailed into it.
SISU response do as we say or nothing. We are the victims you are the bad guys. Typical of their whole approach since they appeared at the club.
No contact since June.
Well in these circumstances, it is s strange feeling but I am glad ACL are standing up to them enough is enough.
Someone needs to finally make a stand.
What SISU have done us wrong and there has to come a time where you are brave enough to say it doesn't matter as it helps my football club
They are ripping off a charity and the average tax payer when the council is skint.
They are ripping off a charity and the average tax payer when the council is skint.
useless non-playing parasitic so-called players
1 loss in 9, unbeaten in 5. Bit harsh to call them parasitic, they're playing football which is their job. On too much money, of course, but we want to compete and I'm afraid that is the only way.
KG I'm referring to those still on excessively high wages and not contributing on the field - the ones we would like to off-load but nobody will have them on anything like the wages they get here - it's a huge self-inflicted club problem
In that case I agree! Unfortunately, it's a problem at all football clubs. Was it Winston Bogarde at Chelsea who didn't play for about 5 years?!
..... and that my friend is the real problem here and that is a problem all of SISU's own making - they hire & fire the all the CCFC management and they have screwed up in spectacular fashion
.. they want to make something out of CCFC - well they are going to have to fund their mistakes - that includes duff players & managers and also their other big mistake the one we have playing out right now - NOT renegotiating the stadium deal when they took it all over - they have the perfect chance to do so then easily but obviously didn't have the brains back then to do the obvious - business gurus? not a chance.. you've been found out
I've mentioned it on another thread but compare it to Ipswich Town 100% council owned ground. Rent dispute from 2004 - 2012 (resolved this year) with no rent being paid.
Council wanted to increase from £15k to £110k per year (yes per year).
During the 8 years of non payment did the council kick them out? No, because unlike our council, acl and sisu they don't just care about the money but wanted to support the club. They realised the importance of the club to the area. Something which seems to be missing from all involved in this and even some of our own supporters
so did Ipswich not pay the origional agreed amount whilst the dispute was on
I seem to remember they were going to BUY the stadium, not renegotiate the rent. What happened to that? They've left it until now, when they've lost millions, to try and get the Ricoh at a knock-down price. That's what this is all about, not getting a reasonable rent. They were offered a good deal on the rent at the weekend, and turned it down - AGAIN.
Grendel thanks for your marvelous contribution to the debate
Agree with most on here; Sisu have been in charge of the business and have been incompetent at pretty much every level- wasted money on executive, management turnover/payoffs; large, poor, unbalanced and overpaid squad; massive reduction in revenue from gates and commercials- then this ACL fiasco which they are contractually bound by.
As well as being useless they are underhand and manipulative.
Sisu have been at the helm for 5 years and this is where they have brought us to... a financial shambles and laughing stock.
Thing is that CCFC are renting the Stadium is a facility an are paying on the basis of the quality of that facility. The Ricoh is a premiership standard stadium and at 32,500 capacity far outstrips league one grounds in terms of size and quality. That is why we pay more.
Fishers and SISUs argument is massively flawed in this way.
Would we expect to pay a smaller electricity bill just because we're in league one? No. And it is exactly the same with the ground.
SISU should have accepted the very generous 50% rent reduction offered or should have found another smaller ground.
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