I was replying to Astute - who laughably "likes" your post - who said that Joy knows nothing about football. I was saying a lot of owners don't.
It's akin to throwing stones at the moon
Even you don't know what you are going on about all the time.
It was Joy herself that said she knows nothing about football. Not a wild guess like some have. I also said IIRC that she does know how to make money for SISU and her investors. She is not in this for CCFC or us fans. She is in it for what she can get out of CCFC, us fans, ACL, CCC and Higgs. And you are one massive idiot if you think anything different.
Tried that once. Didn't manage to get it.
. It's akin to throwing stones at the moon
Administration is began by a process - it doesn't just happen one day. You don't just wake up and administration pops up out of milk wood.
The only reason it was started was because ACL and the council thought they could boot sisu out and bring Haskell in. They had their administrator ready and waiting. They failed.
I don't think different. Of course SISU are in for it for themselves - where have I said they're not. So are all owners. Look at the debt United are in because of the Glazers. People buy football clubs to make money.
And you’re right, I don’t know what I’m on about sometimes, unlike yourself who apparently is always bang on the money.
Sorry - I missed the question. What was it. About PH4 buying ACL?
Or do you agree with the way they are dealing with our club and fans?
It's 35 miles further away at Sixfields, you know. It's Fisher's fault you're falling short...
Of course, I don't.
Administration is began by a process - it doesn't just happen one day. You don't just wake up and administration pops up out of milk wood.
The only reason it was started was because ACL and the council thought they could boot sisu out and bring Haskell in. They had their administrator ready and waiting. They failed.
At least I admit when I am wrong.
Of course the vast majority of people take over football clubs to make money. Not all do it the right way though......and we have owners trying to do it in the totally wrong way. Or do you agree with the way they are dealing with our club and fans?
Noggin can you point me to the statement in bold, I did ask MMM but have had no response.
I do not have an issue with what you are saying Noggin as it does seem to make most sense, as we have both said there is a certain way Sisu should go about this and it's not the way they're currently going about it, IMO they need to purchase the Higgs' 50% share in the first instance.
I think I can speak for Torch and about 99.9% of others who will say it's wrong how Sisu have deal with our Club and fans.
But you aren't saying SISUE, so you must love them. It's ok.
Administration is began by a process - it doesn't just happen one day. You don't just wake up and administration pops up out of milk wood.
The only reason it was started was because ACL and the council thought they could boot sisu out and bring Haskell in. They had their administrator ready and waiting. They failed.
No, I don't know it to be true, its just from the paper talk and rumours. It's also the only thing that makes sense, there is zero chance that ph4's plan was to get the unfettered freehold because he'd have even less chance of doing so than the no chance that sisu have and we know he is a property developer so probably wouldn't want the team on it's own, hence buy acl and the team and there is room to succeed, exactly as sisu should of done.
While I completely agree sisu should have started with buying the higgs share if they were going to they'd have done it already, 5 years ago ideally but when they were in negotiations would have been good too, I don't see it's realistic anymore. I think they must have some plan with the courts, there is no way they can buy the unfettered freehold and it's such a ludicrous suggestion I don't believe that is what they plan, feels like a diversion to make it look like the council who won't play ball and it's clear many are falling for that.
[/QUOTE]this is the big sticking point paying the market price QUOTE=RoboCCFC90;637684]No there is no clear evidence that suggests that PH4 wanted the Freehold to the Arena, but being a Property Developer then it is right to assume he might of consider it, you say MMM that you have it on record that he stated otherwise I would like to see that if possible? There were rumours at the time PH4 was interested that he wanted to build another Hotel on one of the Car Parks areas. Of course this is a rumour and not a fact, but to do this he would surely need the Freehold?
It is Sisu's clear demand and in my opinion a reasonable one, baring in mind that they pay the market price, something I have never suggested otherwise.
As I stated earlier in the thread Richardson built this Arena with the purpose that the Club could generate revenue from other sources then just the Stadia on match days, it is not unreasonable for Sisu to want this, if they had this it would improve turnover drastically and could allow the playing squad to be enhanced significantly. However you'll tell me next that's all a pipe dream and they want to see us fall like a ton of bricks, right?
[/QUOTE]this is the big sticking point paying the market price QUOTE=RoboCCFC90;637684]No there is no clear evidence that suggests that PH4 wanted the Freehold to the Arena, but being a Property Developer then it is right to assume he might of consider it, you say MMM that you have it on record that he stated otherwise I would like to see that if possible? There were rumours at the time PH4 was interested that he wanted to build another Hotel on one of the Car Parks areas. Of course this is a rumour and not a fact, but to do this he would surely need the Freehold?
It is Sisu's clear demand and in my opinion a reasonable one, baring in mind that they pay the market price, something I have never suggested otherwise.
As I stated earlier in the thread Richardson built this Arena with the purpose that the Club could generate revenue from other sources then just the Stadia on match days, it is not unreasonable for Sisu to want this, if they had this it would improve turnover drastically and could allow the playing squad to be enhanced significantly. However you'll tell me next that's all a pipe dream and they want to see us fall like a ton of bricks, right?
[/QUOTE]this is the big sticking point paying the market price QUOTE=RoboCCFC90;637684]No there is no clear evidence that suggests that PH4 wanted the Freehold to the Arena, but being a Property Developer then it is right to assume he might of consider it, you say MMM that you have it on record that he stated otherwise I would like to see that if possible? There were rumours at the time PH4 was interested that he wanted to build another Hotel on one of the Car Parks areas. Of course this is a rumour and not a fact, but to do this he would surely need the Freehold?
It is Sisu's clear demand and in my opinion a reasonable one, baring in mind that they pay the market price, something I have never suggested otherwise.
As I stated earlier in the thread Richardson built this Arena with the purpose that the Club could generate revenue from other sources then just the Stadia on match days, it is not unreasonable for Sisu to want this, if they had this it would improve turnover drastically and could allow the playing squad to be enhanced significantly. However you'll tell me next that's all a pipe dream and they want to see us fall like a ton of bricks, right?
Any evidence ? Or just another grenade chucked into the crowd?
I think its fairly obvious and is a frequently made comment. Its also why thr trust backed administsruon and, one assumes, the reason sisu threatened them with legal action.
I don't actually see why people bleat and say this isn't true. It's a strategy that was perfectly legitimate for ACL to pursue and had it worked would probably have meant the club stayed at the Ricoh. The problem of course is they got it wrong. That and the subsequent CVA rejection are the real reasons we are no longer in Coventry. ACL tried to be smart. Council run quangos are very rarely smart.
I think its fairly obvious and is a frequently made comment. Its also why thr trust backed administsruon and, one assumes, the reason sisu threatened them with legal action.
I don't actually see why people bleat and say this isn't true. It's a strategy that was perfectly legitimate for ACL to pursue and had it worked would probably have meant the club stayed at the Ricoh. The problem of course is they got it wrong. That and the subsequent CVA rejection are the real reasons we are no longer in Coventry. ACL tried to be smart. Council run quangos are very rarely smart.
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