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KenilworthSkyBlue · Oct 16, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
I really hope there’s something in the pipeline for Pask - doesn’t make the 23s today and didn’t make the squad against Bournemouth even without Da Costa not fit.

As good as we have been with young players, this is one we’ve not managed too well as there is no plan in place for him.

Personally I don't believe that he's been mismanaged, I think the situation he now finds himself is just as a result of unfortunate circumstance. I'm sure initially there was a plan in place for his development but last season couldn't have gone worse for him. He started well in pre-season, then was out for 4/5 months due to injury, then just as he was getting a few games under his belt the season was curtailed and he didn't play for yet another 4/5 months.

He desperately needs first team minutes, as at his age sitting on the best or playing in the U23s is useless. So, hopefully he's sent out on (at least) a short-term loan.

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

Or are we ignoring that hes just shite?

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 16, 2020

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Personally I don't believe that he's been mismanaged, I think it's just a matter of unfortunate circumstance. I do believe initially there was certainly a plan in place for his development but last season couldn't have gone worse for him. He started well in pre-season, then was out for 4/5 months due to injury, then just as he was getting a few games under his belt the season was curtailed and he didn't play for yet another 4/5 months.

He desperately needs first team minutes, as at his age sitting on the best or playing in the U23s is useless.

Today is the last day he can go on loan to a FL club I think. If he doesn’t go out today you have to wonder what purpose he has being here

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Today is the last day he can go on loan to a FL club I think. If he doesn’t go out today you have to wonder what purpose he has being here

Hes the second coming of Paulo Maldini according to some on here

KenilworthSkyBlue · Oct 16, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Today is the last day he can go on loan to a FL club I think. If he doesn’t go out today you have to wonder what purpose he has being here

Yeah it is. You have to feel for him if he isn't sent out on loan as bar an injury crisis/several suspensions his game time is going to be limited at best.

Happy_Martian · Oct 16, 2020

Posted this on the "Big News on Max" thread too.

MR saying an hour ago that he's not expecting anyone moving out and definitely noone coming in.

Frostie · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
Or are we ignoring that hes just shite?

Seen a lot of him have you?

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

Frostie said:
Seen a lot of him have you?

Have you?

Skybluefaz · Oct 16, 2020

Wednesday who I thought were skint have got jack Marriott and Aden Flint

Frostie · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
Have you?

A bit, from the U23s & some of his youth games with West Ham.

He's young & lacking experience but has lots of good attributes I'd want in a CB. He's much quicker than our other CBs which would be very useful. Very much square peg in a round hole when filling in at RWB though.

You've obviously seen enough to write him off though?

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

Frostie said:
A bit, from the U23s & some of his youth games with West Ham.

He's young & lacking experience but has lots of good attributes I'd want in a CB. He's much quicker than our other CBs which would be very useful. Very much square peg in a round hole when filling in at RWB though.

You've obviously seen enough to write him off though?

He's been here a while, and from what I've seen hes no better than say Drysdale, so its a no from me

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

They signed him permanently

junglej13 · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

I remember a lot of people raving over Oxford's business in Jan last year. Scrambling round on deadline day is usually a sign a club hasn't had a good window. Would people prefer we hung on and then were forced to sign someone like Andre Wright at the 11th hour. Another attacker would be nice but we've had a pretty decent window in the circumstances.

fernandopartridge · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

The reality is that we're skint

Frostie · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
He's been here a while, and from what I've seen hes no better than say Drysdale, so its a no from me

He's played 1 game in his natural position & that was against a side who were (then) a league above us?

Tommo1993 · Oct 16, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
I don't want much...

You had me hook, line and sinker for a moment. Toying with my emotions. I’ll get you!

PVA · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

We did all our business early.

The timing of any deals today does not mean we are being left behind. Teams with bigger budgets than us signing good players is no slight on us.

shmmeee · Oct 16, 2020

PVA said:
Huh?

We did all our business early.

The timing of any deals today does not mean we are being left behind. Teams with bigger budgets than us signing good players should not be used as a negative against us.

Kind of ignores the elephant in the room of whether we can compete on our budget.

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

For me attacking mid is a glaring hole.

Mark O'Hare out the game thats it. Allen has been shaky, shipley cant cut it at this level and Jones Jobello(granted coming back) and bapaga are injured

fernandopartridge · Oct 16, 2020

shmmeee said:
Kind of ignores the elephant in the room of whether we can compete on our budget.

It isn't really the elephant in the room, it's an overt fact often referenced. I don't think anybody is under an illusion about us having a low budget.

We're also talking about Herbie Kane here, he had a good season at Doncaster the other year but barely played last season. We have our own player who had a good season for Donny more recently yet we've written him off already.

fernandopartridge · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
For me attacking mid is a glaring hole.

Mark O'Hare out the game thats it. Allen has been shaky, shipley cant cut it at this level and Jones Jobello(granted coming back) and bapaga are injured

The answer is obvious, we play with two strikers and make use of the big signing we made in the summer.

Liquid Gold · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
For me attacking mid is a glaring hole.

Mark O'Hare out the game thats it. Allen has been shaky, shipley cant cut it at this level and Jones Jobello(granted coming back) and bapaga are injured

Shit, we'll be even worse now Mark O'Hare is out.

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 16, 2020

Just seen that Harry Wilson has gone to Cardiff on loan a fee of £1.2 million and 60k per week wages

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 16, 2020

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Just seen that Harry Wilson has gone to Cardiff on loan a fee of £1.2 million and 60k per week wages

Daylight robbery and hope Cardiff aren’t one of the 6 clubs struggling

Barnsley · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

Rumour as it we’re about to sign Matty James from Lester, if this turns out to be true it’ll be fantastic for us, he’s the best player to pull on a Barnsley shirt in the last 20 years in many BFC fans eyes. He was amazing for us last time we had him.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Oct 16, 2020

Barnsley said:
Rumour as it we’re about to sign Matty James from Lester, if this turns out to be true it’ll be fantastic for us, he’s the best player to pull on a Barnsley shirt in the last 20 years in many BFC fans eyes. He was amazing for us last time we had him.

A great player if fit but he hasn't played a full season for the best part of 5 years. Not exactly one to rely on.

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 16, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
Daylight robbery and hope Cardiff aren’t one of the 6 clubs struggling

It’s a real back wards step for the player prem loan last year and struggling to get out on the day into the championship this year.

Skyblueweeman · Oct 16, 2020

Barnsley said:
Rumour as it we’re about to sign Matty James from Lester, if this turns out to be true it’ll be fantastic for us, he’s the best player to pull on a Barnsley shirt in the last 20 years in many BFC fans eyes. He was amazing for us last time we had him.

Some have said O'Hare is the best thing to put on a shirt for us in the last 20 years. No biggy.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Oct 16, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
The answer is obvious, we play with two strikers and make use of the big signing we made in the summer.

I've been saying the same.

What formation would you play - like a 3-5-2?

Saddlebrains · Oct 16, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
The answer is obvious, we play with two strikers and make use of the big signing we made in the summer.

Shout

KenilworthSkyBlue · Oct 16, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
We're being left behind here.

Barnsley picking up Herbie Kane on loan is a great signing.

Wednesday have gone and got Marriott and Flint.

Some cracking deals being done by teams around us today. Worrying

Lets get a bit of perspective and calm. We're certainly not 'being left behind' because we're not opting to sign players on £20k per week.

Also, with regards to the signings, they're hardly 'cracking deals' are they. Jack Marriott's best tally in the Championship is 13 goals and last season he netted 3 times. Aden Flint is a respectable signing on paper but you have to wonder why he's played for three different Championship clubs in three years. I also get the impression his career has been on a downward trajectory since his big money departure from Bristol. Herbie Kane is a bright talent, but his arrival at Oakwell doesn't exactly fill me with worry as it still doesn't solve the fact that they couldn't buy a goal at the minute.

shepardo01 · Oct 16, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 16, 2020

Pask stays then. Seems another season of being ‘too developed’ for the 23s but not good enough for the first team...

fernandopartridge · Oct 16, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Pask stays then. Seems another season of being ‘too developed’ for the 23s but not good enough for the first team...

Obvious after playing just a 10th of the games of course

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