Corrado
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We all knew Reading was a write off.....
We all knew Reading was a write off.....Im still angry this morning.
We all know Saturday is a write off, so already Birmingham is a must win. They will be down there at the end of the season.
In 10 games we've lost double what we did the whole of last season
We all knew Reading was a write off.....
You are an embarrassment
How many points we won from away games?
1
How many goals we comceding in 10 games?
20.
You honestly think a watford team packed with players like Deeney, Cleverly, Murray Sarr etc aren't going to make us look amateur with our colander defence?
I admire your optimism
He cost us the game. Had sheaf made the same pass he would be absolutely crucified but Teflon max is forgiven. He missed 2 good chances also so he was very culpable in the result last nightIl be honest, I thought he had a good game, apart from the final 10 seconds. He certainly didn't do anything to warrant being called a c**t or French (?) T**t by a bunch of keyboard warriors who pretend they know more then a proven successful manager and his assistant
I agree, yeah a really bad mistake but they still had a lot to do. Ostegard should have taken the man and took the yellow card when he was still on his own half, ans McFadzean shouldn't have pushed him. He must have given away 5-6 penalties in his 50 appearances for us.Il be honest, I thought he had a good game, apart from the final 10 seconds. He certainly didn't do anything to warrant being called a c**t or French (?) T**t by a bunch of keyboard warriors who pretend they know more then a proven successful manager and his assistant
Pointing out what he did wrong is absolutely fine, but going that bit further and verbally abusing him on an internet forum is everything that is wrong with this world. 99% of people on here who verbally abuse him on here, or any other player would not say it to their face. The other 1% are just plain wrong. You think the players don't read this site??He cost us the game. Had sheaf made the same pass he would be absolutely crucified but Teflon max is forgiven. He missed 2 good chances also so he was very culpable in the result last night
Oh mate I'm still fuming. I can't shake the feeling that this will be crucial come the end of the season.Be honest, most people would have agreed with me around full time last night. I’m still pretty annoyed about what he did which is weird the day after a game
We're conceding 2 goals a game and missing gilt edged chances every game..
I'd like to see where your optimism for staying up comes from with that
Sure.
He's the best athlete at the club, probably the only player who can lead the line using his physicality and hold the ball up.
He brings others into play; it's no coincidence that O'Hare was back to near his best tonight as Max was creating space for him. He creates space for the midfield runners and his strike partners.
He is a great striker of the ball and certainly has the best technique at the club when it comes to volleys.
He has significantly improved the team from the time he's been back; as confirmed by Hamer and his selection by Robins and Viveash.
But of course you're a better judge of a player than the pros and coaches.
We already are aren't we?! Injuries are killing usFfs gutted we are going to struggle big time.
I would say, that if a player gets upset by what somebody with a comedy pseudonym says about them, they're probably not the temperament to cope with pressure when it matters.Pointing out what he did wrong is absolutely fine, but going that bit further and verbally abusing him on an internet forum is everything that is wrong with this world. 99% of people on here who verbally abuse him on here, or any other player would not say it to their face. The other 1% are just plain wrong. You think the players don't read this site??
Ostigard was already on a yellow , that’s why I think he didnt take him out , did anyone else think the late change was strange , swapping over Sam to left back bringing on de costa , was max‘s mistake worse than walkers at Middlesbrough ?I agree, yeah a really bad mistake but they still had a lot to do. Ostegard should have taken the man and took the yellow card when he was still on his own half, ans McFadzean shouldn't have pushed him. He must have given away 5-6 penalties in his 50 appearances for us.
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McCallum was doing fine I feltOstigard was already on a yellow , that’s why I think he didnt take him out , did anyone else think the late change was strange , swapping over Sam to left back bringing on de costa , was max‘s mistake worse than walkers at Middlesbrough ?
Ostigard was already on a yellow , that’s why I think he didnt take him out , did anyone else think the late change was strange , swapping over Sam to left back bringing on de costa , was max‘s mistake worse than walkers at Middlesbrough ?
Sheaf did do almost the same thing against Reading although fortunately it didn't cost us the game.He cost us the game. Had sheaf made the same pass he would be absolutely crucified but Teflon max is forgiven. He missed 2 good chances also so he was very culpable in the result last night
I would say, that if a player gets upset by what somebody with a comedy pseudonym says about them, they're probably not the temperament to cope with pressure when it matters.
Now, don't get me wrong, I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of the reaction has been OTT. He made a mistake but, he ain't the first this season! And overall his game was... OK. I agree, there's no reason to call him a c**t just because he made a mistake - not like he'd have planned to! But yeah, whatever his limitations, Max is also a fine example for players who may not have made it yet, are trudging around in non league, and should take note that working hard to make the best of what you have can take you a reasonable way.
I just get slightly worried if we can't say if we thought a player was shit. I don't think Biamou is, btw - he works hard, has certain assets, also has limitations which will mean we'll always be looking for better but... he has a place in the squad.
Ultimately though, we're in a place where if we all just sit here and agree every player is fantastic, there's not much point to being here at all.
I agree with most of this Northern and 1,000% agree also with Corrado when he says: 'Pointing out what he did wrong is absolutely fine, but going that bit further and verbally abusing him on an internet forum is everything that is wrong with this world. 99% of people on here who verbally abuse him on here, or any other player would not say it to their face. The other 1% are just plain wrong. You think the players don't read this site??'
Spot on.
Some of the verbal abuse of Max last night on this forum was unfair and to be honest shocking. It was almost as if some on here were waiting for Max to make a mistake to score some internet points and throw abuse. You know who you are. There's a huge difference between challenging team selections and pointing out areas for players to improve vs. kicking players on the ground when they are no doubt already devastated after making a mistake.
Most of our players have made key mistakes during their time with us including last season........ Marosi, Dabo, Rose, McFadz, Kelly, Sheaf, Hamer, Shipley and O'Hare (and that's just what I remember). I don't recall any of these players being abused to the extent of what I read last night.
To jump on a single player for one mistake after he'd had such a good game for us is mindless. Disappointment is one thing, throwing abuse and derision at a player for one mistake over 96 minutes is totally unjustified and certainly not helpful to the team and most importantly to the player.
Sheaf did do almost the same thing against Reading although fortunately it didn't cost us the game.
Hardly a free run at goal. And BTW, why have we overcommited players forward in the 96 minute, where's the midfield? Why is Michael Rose so far advanced? We've basically left Forrest 3 v 2Nothing like the same.
Sheaf chipped the ball forward on 66mins towards halfway expecting Max to show for it (like he should have done) simple miscommunication.
João still had to skip away from 2 challenges & score from outside the area when he wasn't closed down effectively.
Biamou's was an utter suicidal pass backwards in the 96th minute giving them a free run towards our goal - the only way to prevent the goal then was for Østigård to take a red card.
We’ll get better. We always do.
Hardly a free run at goal. And BTW, why have we overcommited players forward in the 96 minute, where's the midfield? Why is Michael Rose so far advanced? We've basically left Forrest 3 v 2
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We don’t have any other choice, unfortunately. If you genuinely think Robins views Biamou as a Championship player then you’re deluded.No for the language he uses against one of our players. Do you honestly think you know better then Robins.... If he was league 2 standard he wouldn't be playing
Ffs he wasn’t even a starter or regular in League 1.Il be honest, I thought he had a good game, apart from the final 10 seconds. He certainly didn't do anything to warrant being called a c**t or French (?) T**t by a bunch of keyboard warriors who pretend they know more then a proven successful manager and his assistant
Hardly a free run at goal. And BTW, why have we overcommited players forward in the 96 minute, where's the midfield? Why is Michael Rose so far advanced? We've basically left Forrest 3 v 2
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Absolutely shitCheers @Nick for this image but as you can see Rose is advanced to offer Max a simple pass, for reasons only he knows he ignored Rose to play that suicidal pass.
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I don't doubt they do read it and yes certain comments are over the top but there is no doubt certain players are immune from criticism. Grimmer is another example. They are happy to take the adulation and butt licking on social media but don't like the down side. Works both waysPointing out what he did wrong is absolutely fine, but going that bit further and verbally abusing him on an internet forum is everything that is wrong with this world. 99% of people on here who verbally abuse him on here, or any other player would not say it to their face. The other 1% are just plain wrong. You think the players don't read this site??
It was the 96th minute he didnt need to be so high up the pitch. He left a massive gap between him and McFadzean. I'm not excusing Biamous awful pass, but im sure when Robins and the team do the autopsy on that goal, they will identify a number of issues that led to the goal, not just Biamous poor pass.Rose went to support Biamou and if you look is in acres so could easily have received the ball.
It was the 96th minute he didnt need to be so high up the pitch. He left a massive gap between him and McFadzean. I'm not excusing Biamous awful pass, but im sure when Robins and the team do the autopsy on that goal, they will identify a number of issues that led to the goal, not just Biamous poor pass.
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But is where De Costa should have been. Its about being streetwise, and we are so naive on top of individual errors. An away point would have been something to build on after the reading win. There was no need to over commit.Yeah but he went up to show for Biamou to get the ball from him and give him a simple pass.
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