Name a European country that is in danger of being "swamped" by Muslims?
No. It wasn't that bit I was focusing on. I misread another part of the post.Why?
He says "to label them far right or hard left" and from all groups?
Again, this is part of the problem.
No. It wasn't that but I was focusing on. I misread another part of the post.
My apologies.
AcceptedNo. It wasn't that bit I was focusing on. I misread another part of the post.
My apologies.
You were very quick to react though
Yeah, sorry. I agree with that. I think it's across the nation and all cultures.Accepted
No, but they can easily turn up and lift anyone who isn't meant to be there.Yep, they are there 24/7.
It makes me wonder if people actually leave the house sometimes.
No, but they can easily turn up and lift anyone who isn't meant to be there.
Stop with the personal insults and explain why you think it is likely that illegal immigrants are going to live in a place where it is very, very easy for them to be arrested? Your argue fails the "making sense" check.
It’s been knocked down
Yeah, I am uncomfortable with "swamped."We've been here before of course.
"Swamped" by Blacks, "swamped" by Pakistanis (to Tommy this includes Hindus, Sikhs, and brown people in general of course), "swamped" by Irish, "swamped" by Poles.
Funny, because despite decades if not centuries of all this 'swamping', it still looks like England to me.
Who on here acknowledges it’s a problem from the side of the debate that’s pro immigration. Not seen one person acknowledge it.
The old Trusthouse Forte place or is that a different one?
The Allesley hotel has been closed for a while
I quoted somebody earlier saying:
"'Our system has collapsed. We are at the end. The main reason for this is the continuing influx of refugees,' he said. 'I'm calling for a freeze on refugee admissions, otherwise it would no longer be possible to provide help.'
He also says "Young Muslim adolescents in particular show what goes wrong with integration. Eleven-year-olds are already running around with knives here.'
And, like most of his posts, inaccurate.Nice bit of dehumanisation for a Saturday morning.
Ah I'm thing of the Coventry Hill
I think we can all agree that Far right rhetoric is largely nonsense as is the belief that the current process can continue forever. The answer as usual is in the centre. Sadly in the modern day of polarised opinions and politics, the centre has long since become extinct
Yes that’s still going - and a crime hell hole
A Christian run charity in Germany supporting over 7,000 children and young people from refugee and socially disadvantaged families. The real far right thugs.And the evidence for this statement is where? TikTok, Twitter, Facebook?
Depends how many were local doesn't it?I’m sorry but the loss of industry isn’t the root cause of everything thats wrong in the UK.
Sunderland is a prime example with the Nissan plant making it very prosperous but they still aren’t happy are they.
Whether people like it or not people feel they’re not being listened too and are taking to the streets to protest.
They protested at the ballot box with the reform vote. There really arent 4 million far right thugs in the uk. Certainly not that are able to put a cross in a box anyhow.
You want people to be "polite" yet get cunty when it's pointed out what you are saying makes no sense.They can easily turn up anywhere to "lift" them. How often do you think this happens?
There's massive irony that you are saying "stop with the personal insults".
"Swamping" host countries? You're on the Great Replacement theory rhetoric again here, I'm afraid.
It is a fiction. It is a racist fiction. If you continue propound a racist fiction, here or elsewhere, then I'm sorry, but you are by definition, a racist.
It's the fiction and the unchallenged repeating of it that scares people, not the reality.
Name a European country that is in danger of being "swamped" by Muslims?
Without looking it up, what proportion of Muslims do you think live in the country now, and how long do you think it would take for them to become a majority of the population?
You want people to be "polite" yet get cunty when it's pointed out what you are saying makes no sense.
Please explain to me why if an illegal immigrant you wants to blend in and melt into society is going to choose to live in a place that makes it more likely that they get caught? Yes you can be arrested anywhere but why would they choose to increase the chances they are caught? They are and do try and limit the chances of capture and the most common way is living in and amongst the normal "people" of the UK.
To choose to live in a border force run hotel is akin to having and arrest warrant out for you and living on little park street.
A Christian run charity in Germany supporting over 7,000 children and young people from refugee and socially disadvantaged families. The real far right thugs.
You haven't explain why and what evidence you have that illegal immigrants are likely to choose to but themselves at risk of capture.Because a lot of the people doing the checks in hotels are on minimum wage and don't give a shit and just want an easy life.
You're acting as if the hotels have an iron wall around them and that people in the country illegally all live in holes underground or something. Using your logic, nobody in the country illegally would work at a car wash or a nail salon because it's too obvious.
Because a lot of the people doing the checks in hotels are on minimum wage and don't give a shit and just want an easy life.
You're acting as if the hotels have an iron wall around them and that people in the country illegally all live in holes underground or something. Using your logic, nobody in the country illegally would work at a car wash or a nail salon because it's too obvious.
This is a perfect example of what he is talking about.
This thread is completely pointless. There will be no attempt to listen to what the complaints are we will just be told that there's nothing to complain about it's all just the FAR RIGHT scum lying and agitating people for no reason at all other than that they are racist.
Meanwhile Kier will be seeing how he can strengthen hate speech laws to make sure those racists don't open their mouths in future.
There's kids in general running around with knives. All walks of life.Let's separate this a bit then.
First, it's Germany.
Second, I think we can all accept that there's a struggle with housing immigrants that haven't been processed. Solutions to that differ.
Third though, are you really suggesting that in this country there's an issue with 11-year old muslim children running around with knives?
Any evidence to support that?
Let's separate this a bit then.
First, it's Germany.
Second, I think we can all accept that there's a struggle with housing immigrants that haven't been processed. Solutions to that differ.
Third though, are you really suggesting that in this country there's an issue with 11-year old muslim children running around with knives?
Any evidence to support that?
You haven't explain why and what evidence you have that illegal immigrants are likely to choose to but themselves at risk of capture.
No one said anything about "iron walls", no one is saying you can't get in an immigration hotel. The question is why would they choose to if it increases the risk of capture.
But aren't Labour trying to do something about this?
They're reemploying border control staff and trying to clear the asylum back log and sending the tax man after the barbers, nail salons etc.
Will their plan work? Who knows?
I'm not someone with a lot of faith in them
but they are trying something. I don't think it's realistic to expect them to sort it after a month.
You see I'd go with your argument but Sunderland's still got great poverty *despite* Nissan - it's been a fraction of what was lost and far more than around these parts, which is still well down on its heydey despite JLR and a couple of others. In a general sense it suffers a bit for being number two to Newcastle - it sees the investment go there, and Newcastle becoming fashionable and feels left behind. You get that in other places too - Swansea to Cardiff for example. Go outside a bit to the likes of Darlington and it gets worse... and it is fair to say that as with about the whole country, there's a feeling everything is London-centric. In many ways Johnson had the right idea with levelling up, but the fact it hasn't actually happens magnifies the issues.
So yeah, I'm not denying that feelings about immigration contribute, but if everything else were well there'd be no need to blame other groups or communities. You're right (assuming it was you! Apologies if not!) that people look for a reason and a target to make it easier to understand and explain, even if that target isn't a fair one.
At the same time, current disturbances are clearly being stirred by people who don't want to try and come up with the answers. To a degree it might be best to ignore them and focus on those who are vulnerable to their message, and what we can do to stop them being indoctrinated / radicalised.
Under the radar? It's a news article? That case is linked to organised crime as well as sexual exploitation of children, more so than race. Organised gangs and criminals across the globe will exploit anyone for their own satisfsction/means if they can.. despite what right wongers think its not an asian thing. Even individuals in organisations such as the Catholic church exploit children on a significant scale.... thats nothing to do with Christianity or race.. just obscene self gratification ! It's a poverty thing with these gangs as well whereby older teenage kids from deprived areas go missing families maybe don't care and these people are then incredibly vulnerable and groomed. Resources for local authorities and police to help and support these kids/families is not there due to massive government cutbacks as companies/public don't like paying tax. Everything is linked in complex ways. Blaming race is just what the uninformed person in the street thinks as they hook,line and sinker swallow the nasty race/culture war soundbites from SYL, Farage, Tate, Trump, Braverman, Patel, Mogg and Redwood. They are the problem actually and should be deeply ashamed. It's not helping the potential of this country to work together and realise its potential.I agree.
The point being there are people turning up at random mosques, abusing coppers, getting pissed up at a vigil for poor kids murdered but this stuff goes under the radar.
I know it's not directly related to the original post in the thread but it's more relevant than the Southport one.
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