fernandopartridge
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You're just too thick understand the point which is that the right to exist is not solely Israel's
You're just too thick understand the point which is that the right to exist is not solely Israel'sHe said the BBC was biased for saying that Israel had the right to exist. Since when did he have the right to choose what countries should or shouldn't exist? He said it on a TV channel that is now banned. It was the one he got paid quite well on.
Then some wonder why this antisemitism won't go away.
It wasn't criticising Israel. It was questioning if Israel had the right to exist. And on a TV channel he got paid about £20,000 by them. A TV channel since banned.Criticising Israel doesn't make you an anti-Semite any more than criticising Saudi Arabia makes you an Islamophobe. Israel has been violating international law in the West Bank for years with the construction of illegal settlements, it has been carrying out criminal actions in Gaza and the Netanyahu government has been busy passing discriminatory laws against Arabs in Israel itself.
If Israel is immune from criticism for these actions how far can it go before anyone's allowed to say anything?
Oh the keyboard warrior himself is back.You're just too thick understand the point which is that the right to exist is not solely Israel's
I’ve been to the West Bank and it’s awful. Let in and out to work and that’s their life. If it isn’t a ghetto I don’t know what is. Never been to Gaza but apparently it makes the West Bank look like Disney Land. Israel, whether you think it has the right to exist or not should be criticised for creating ghettos. It was about 20 years ago I was there and it’s only gotten worse since.Criticising Israel doesn't make you an anti-Semite any more than criticising Saudi Arabia makes you an Islamophobe. Israel has been violating international law in the West Bank for years with the construction of illegal settlements, it has been carrying out criminal actions in Gaza and the Netanyahu government has been busy passing discriminatory laws against Arabs in Israel itself.
If Israel is immune from criticism for these actions how far can it go before anyone's allowed to say anything?
Nah mate you said hard Brexit is no agreement and our good friend the worldwideweb has saved the day, offering plenty of hard Brexit scenarios where there is an agreementSo lets see.
I said leaving without an agreement...or a deal to people like yourself is hard Brexit. You said I was wrong and tried to take the piss. Correct?
Have it all ready to post if you try and twist the truth again.
More lies.But at the same time you say you're a lifelong Labour voter yet defend the Tories on virtually every point made while denigrating Labour/Corbyn.
Whether that is because you perceive there to be too many apologists for Corbyn/Labour (even though you have the likes of G and Dom being apologists for Alexander and the Tories as well) but your posts are definitely more sympathetic to Alexander and the Tories behaviour/history.
Enjoying your weekend off school?Nah mate you said hard Brexit is no agreement and our good friend the worldwideweb has saved the day, offering plenty of hard Brexit scenarios where there is an agreement
OK, you crack on oh wise oneOh the keyboard warrior himself is back.
Me thick? No. I am not prepared to lie or listen to lies like yourself.
You're just too thick understand the point which is that the right to exist is not solely Israel's
I am indeed, as life is about learning new things - unless you're Astute in which case you don't need to learn anythingEnjoying your weekend off school?
The union will be less at risk if there is a progressive government at Westminster putting substantial investment into Scotland and generally giving a damn about it. That is Corbyn's gamble with the 'no indyref in 2 years' line-he hopes that demand for one will go back down if the government is seen to give a toss.
It wasn't criticising Israel. It was questioning if Israel had the right to exist. And on a TV channel he got paid about £20,000 by them. A TV channel since banned.
But of course nothing to see here. Let's chase up a woman we don't have a clue about that has something to do with May instead.
In answer to a question from the audience, he said: “Yes Israel does have a right to exist and there has to be a two-state solution… The original borders of Israel were agreed in 1948. I do want there to be a long-term peace in the area; I do want there to be a recognition of a Palestinian state therefore I do want the settlement policy to end and the occupation to end so that we have a clear view of the Israeli state and what it will be and hopefully a universally-recognized Palestinian state.”
And when asked about what he admired about Israel, he replied: “I admire the verve and spirit of the towns and cities in Israel., the life and the way people conduct themselves. I admire the separation of legal and political powers and the system of democratic government that’s there. And I admire many of the technical and industrial achievements that Israel has made and the very advanced technology that it has helped to develop in so many ways in medicine as well as telecommunications technology.”
I agree that is probably the plan of action. I think he sees a 2nd indy ref as almost inevitable but if he can improve Scotland and be sympathetic to them it increases the likelihood that the 2nd ref would be "no". Risky strategy and if it did go that way it still wouldn't Cranky Little Nicky demanding a third. But if the Tories win Scotland will def. move more towards wanting independence.
I do think we'll see the Welsh becoming increasingly beligerent given that the Scots have got so much more from the tubthumping approach.
Well for starters you said it was also wrong to have a go at Israel. Anyway:
His exact quote was 'there is a bias within the BBC towards saying that...'. When he was directly questioned about this during Owen Smith's leadership challenge, he responded:
One cannot advocate for a two-state solution if they refuse to recognise Israel as a legitimate state.
Exactly.One cannot advocate for a two-state solution if they refuse to recognise Israel as a legitimate state.
And that's why I haven't brought up two quotes I've seen from Johnson in.the last couple of days because I can't find the whole interviews so don't know the context
Watch this thread about what Jeremy Corbyn says about our security services and shooting terrorists on site...
Corbyn can not be trusted and is an embarrassment
[/QUOTE]My initial post was about Tory hypocrisy. Whether Corbyn is antisemitic or not (which I don't believe he is), was irrelevant to the point I was making but another topic got derailed. It's pointless.
The ironic thing is that conflating being Jewish with Irsrael in antisemitic in itself.
So he has said differently since so he never made the original comment?Well for starters you said it was also wrong to have a go at Israel. Anyway:
His exact quote was 'there is a bias within the BBC towards saying that...'. When he was directly questioned about this during Owen Smith's leadership challenge, he responded:
One cannot advocate for a two-state solution if they refuse to recognise Israel as a legitimate state.
Tell you what, he’s done plenty off interviews the last 24 hours about how well the police force reacted.... watch all the videos on that thread and tell me you feel safe with Corbyn being in charge of our securityWonder how Johnson will answer it when he's interviewed by Neil.......Oh, hang on!
Watch this thread about what Jeremy Corbyn says about our security services and shooting terrorists on site...
Corbyn can not be trusted and is an embarrassment
Oh well. Corbyn for PM.
More lies.
So point out where I have defended the Tories?
Of course you can't because I never have. But it must be worth a pat on the back or two for you saying such lies.
They also speeded up privatisation of the NHS as you well know.
Faster than ever?
* both regarding debt levelsMy parents? What are you going on about? It was a Labour government
That is as wrong as when you kept lecturing us on privatisation of the NHS was all down to the Tories. Or when you lectured us that a lack of social housing was all down to the Tories.
Is May the PM or trying to become PM?
And you have learned that leaving without an agreement is what is known as a hard Brexit. Well done.I am indeed, as life is about learning new things - unless you're Astute in which case you don't need to learn anything
So he has said differently since so he never made the original comment?
Oh well. Corbyn for PM.
I learnt that a long time ago. Rather; I learnt to correct you that while the former implies the latter, the latter does not imply the former. Not bad for someone who isn't a self proclaimed genius!And you have learned that leaving without an agreement is what is known as a hard Brexit. Well done.
Tell you what, he’s done plenty off interviews the last 24 hours about how well the police force reacted.... watch all the videos on that thread and tell me you feel safe with Corbyn being in charge of our security
How people can vote for him I’ll never know
One question for you. Who gets defended all the time. Corbyn and Labour or the Tories and Boris?So when you're on here and the 'lefties' are blaming the Tories for something you're quick to question it or point out where Labour has also done something similar or were also involved in the process
* both regarding debt levels
However when the likes of Grendel or Dom state something regarding stuff Labour has done which could just as equally be accused of the Tories or just inaccurate you're silent.
You've been on about Corbyn and the anti-semitism and how it should be considered his fault. Yet when someone pointed out a Tory leader had been supportive and honoured a known anti-semite your response was
May was the PM at the time. So why cut her more slack or try to excuse her behaviour more than Corbyn on the issue of 'support' for anti-semites?
You call Blair Bliar and can't stand Corbyn, so you don't seem to support the Labour party policies when it swings either left or right. Why exactly have you always voted for them as it seems there's no point in the past you'd have supported their policies due to either reckless spending or poor economic governance
I'm not saying you're never critical of Tories/Alexander and like I say I don't know if you feel there are more people seemingly exonerating or excusing Corbyn and/or blaming Tories and see it as 'adding balance' but the likes of G on here do that themselves with exonerating Alexander and the Tories. I've no doubt you see it as being impartial but to me it definitely sways more one way than the other.
Watch this thread about what Jeremy Corbyn says about our security services and shooting terrorists on site...
Corbyn can not be trusted and is an embarrassment
One question for you. Who gets defended all the time. Corbyn and Labour or the Tories and Boris?
So how about showing where I have defended the Tories? I have a go at them but it pisses me off when it turns into 100% defending one side. If this thread was anything like real life Labour would get 95% of the vote and Corbyn would be the next pope.
You was saying?Man tried to convince me that I do not know the meaning of a hard Brexit by suggesting that it is a No Deal :joyful:
Try again.So why do you ignore all the times that other 'lefties' and I criticise both Corbyn and Labour policy? Because it doesn't fit your narrative and you only ever seem interested in starting arguments.
Tell you what, he’s done plenty off interviews the last 24 hours about how well the police force reacted.... watch all the videos on that thread and tell me you feel safe with Corbyn being in charge of our security
How people can vote for him I’ll never know
Yep, and I stand with Investopedia in saying that hard Brexit does not imply no dealYou was saying?
You can argue with yourself niw as much as you like. Have had enough.
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