No for long term unemployed I would pay the benefits in food vouchers. If people refused after a set time to get work I’d remove luxury items and hold them in storage until they get work.
I’d force them to do voluntary work for charities while not in work and if they don’t turn up or perform badly after warnings remove the vouchers
What would you do - keep paying them for doing nothing?
Are you completely unaware of the tobacco master settlement agreement (to name but one law case)
Honestly Shmmeee, I really fail to grasp how you can be quite so wrong all the fucking time!!!
You do have a natural talent for it!
I’m talking about the long term unemployed who are making it a lifestyle choice.
There is zero excuse to not work and then reproduce to continue the uselessness - what’s your solution - deliver a new Plasma TV and take them down the bingo?
Jesus Christ
Says the guy bringing up Leah Betts in a serious discussion on drug policy!
Here, some facts. Research study on drug harm:
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Not a surprise. On day 1 they were talking about none of the cabinet being on Radio 4.
Have to agree with SBD and Clint on this. The current drug laws here and in a majority of the western world aren’t working. Reading an interesting book about addiction at the moment called Chasing the scream by Johann Hari. Worth a read for those interested in the subject and in particular the causes of addiction (not the substance but the mental state) and how criminalising drugs has just made the problem worse.
Leaving aside the criminal aspect for a second (though read High Society by Ben Elton where the drug gangs go against a politician trying to legalise because it’ll stop their income)
There’s a moral case for me which is that drug use is almost always self medication. People have taken mind altering substances in every society throughout history, more so when their conditions are poor and mental health is bad. So by criminalising you’re punishing ill people (all while providing cash for criminals).
The other side is route into crime. I’ve taught so many teenage boys who see the dealer on their estate with his wads of cash and want some of that. See a bit of delivery as not that bad and paying well and then they’re in the gang system and it’s hard to get out. Asking kids to steal from shops/people or commit other crimes for cash is a much harder sell.
So based on this we should all be taking acid and mushrooms instead of smoking weed and sniffing coke?Says the guy bringing up Leah Betts in a serious discussion on drug policy!
Here, some facts. Research study on drug harm:
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So based on this we should all be taking acid and mushrooms instead of smoking week and sniffing coke?
I’m in!
All joking aside, I tend to agree.Everyone should take acid at least once.
All joking aside, I tend to agree.
Of all the drugs I’ve done, only acid and modafinil have had a positive impact in hindsight. MDMA cures my social anxiety and I like it but the comedowns are horrendous, weed kills my motivation and long term harms me, beer makes me fat and sick, coke is expensive and makes me a bore, cigarettes are just shit, I proposed to my ex wife on mushrooms (definitely the most expensive drug I’ve ever taken), but acid genuinely gave me a new insight on the world and modafinil got me through my Masters.
I wouldn’t do acid a lot, but I’m definitely glad I’ve done it.
Of all the drugs I’ve done, only acid and modafinil have had a positive impact in hindsight. MDMA cures my social anxiety and I like it but the comedowns are horrendous, weed kills my motivation and long term harms me, beer makes me fat and sick, coke is expensive and makes me a bore, cigarettes are just shit, I proposed to my ex wife on mushrooms (definitely the most expensive drug I’ve ever taken), but acid genuinely gave me a new insight on the world and modafinil got me through my Masters.
I wouldn’t do acid a lot, but I’m definitely glad I’ve done it.
Not sure if I’ve posted this on here before but a mate of mine is currently involved in trials regarding using MDMA to treat both PTSD and alcoholism.Of all the drugs I’ve done, only acid and modafinil have had a positive impact in hindsight. MDMA cures my social anxiety and I like it but the comedowns are horrendous, weed kills my motivation and long term harms me, beer makes me fat and sick, coke is expensive and makes me a bore, cigarettes are just shit, I proposed to my ex wife on mushrooms (definitely the most expensive drug I’ve ever taken), but acid genuinely gave me a new insight on the world and modafinil got me through my Masters.
I wouldn’t do acid a lot, but I’m definitely glad I’ve done it.
Shmmeee the raving pill head
Not sure if I’ve posted this on here before but a mate of mine is currently involved in trials regarding using MDMA to treat both PTSD and alcoholism.
Mushrooms definitely gave me my ‘cleanest’ trip and wasn’t always a lover of the comedowns off LSD, although it’s funny how selective memory comes in and you forget about these things as time goes by.
Not a surprise. On day 1 they were talking about none of the cabinet being on Radio 4.
They've seen what they can get away with. An entire election campaign avoiding any questioning, even hiding in a fridge at one point, yet still got voted in. They're emboldened and know there's no point risking being asked difficult questions where someone might put their foot in it.
Leaving aside the criminal aspect for a second (though read High Society by Ben Elton where the drug gangs go against a politician trying to legalise because it’ll stop their income)
There’s a moral case for me which is that drug use is almost always self medication. People have taken mind altering substances in every society throughout history, more so when their conditions are poor and mental health is bad. So by criminalising you’re punishing ill people (all while providing cash for criminals).
The other side is route into crime. I’ve taught so many teenage boys who see the dealer on their estate with his wads of cash and want some of that. See a bit of delivery as not that bad and paying well and then they’re in the gang system and it’s hard to get out. Asking kids to steal from shops/people or commit other crimes for cash is a much harder sell.
There is also the moral aspect that society ends up picking up the tab for the consequences of addiction. Mind you the same applies for fast food, fizzy pop, gambling etc
Im a big believer in sin taxes not to reduce consumption so much but to pay for the externalities. Though I expect it’d make a pint about £15. Would fund the NHS though!
I'm fine paying 10p more for sugary drinks since the tax proceeds are used properly. Prefer that to them changing the recipe!
This thread may aswell be named the what drugs have we took thread
You start.This thread may aswell be named the what drugs have we took thread
A new government Town of the Year competition has backfired spectacularly after officials failed to realise that it was being launched in a place that has been a city for 19 years.
Dom will be fumingBloody Labour nationalising things, its a disgrace.
Dom will be fuming
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To be fair, I think a lot of the public (left and right leaning) don’t agree with the rail set up.Bloody Labour nationalising things, its a disgrace.
Bloody Labour nationalising things, its a disgrace.
Saw a Sun story on Finland or somewhere moving to a four day week. Was tweeted with a clapping emoji and full of praise. Literally less than a month ago they were screeching about Labour thinking about it would ruin the economy.
See also the difference between labour suggesting a higher minimum wage and Tories.
Tories: not the brightest.
Saw a Sun story on Finland or somewhere moving to a four day week. Was tweeted with a clapping emoji and full of praise. Literally less than a month ago they were screeching about Labour thinking about it would ruin the economy.
See also the difference between labour suggesting a higher minimum wage and Tories.
Tories: not the brightest.
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