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It's a reasonably elegant way of complying with the radicals, whilst really maintaining the status quo.It better not, or it will blow a hole in the VAT on Private tuition fees they plan
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It's a reasonably elegant way of complying with the radicals, whilst really maintaining the status quo.
Stop going back over your own posts thenI followed chief's link... then closed the page down. Already read too much BS on here today...
Stop going back over your own posts then
Then the independent report will come back and not recommend integration won’t it?
Very bizarre take to withhold your vote because someone wants a report writing.
Fully. Costed. Manifesto.
It’s not the poor people that have the money Dom. Head out of the rich peoples arses.
As of next month I’m a higher rate tax payer. I approve of Labours tax plans.
BTW the most regressive tax is VAT and the Tories hiked that. Most of their tax cuts are aimed at the rich. They’ve paid for them through borrowing. Your nightmare has already happened.
As I said earlier - utter shite - Institute if Fiscal Studies all over itFor all those so concerned with “where will the money come from?”, costings here:
https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Funding-Real-Change.pdf
Nutshell revenue figures:
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I don’t think was never planning on being involved in that Tony. If it’s anything like the shouty mess of previous party leader debates probably a good call.Given his apparent success in the last leadership debate it seems strange that Boris has pulled out of the C4 one.
#runningscared #darenotopenmymouthinpublicbecauseillputmyfootinit.
The C4 Tory Leadership debate that Boris also ducked out off, was by far the best of them. Controlled and to the point. Krishnan Guru-Murphy was excellent. Not sure if he was lined up to do this but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the reason he’s ducked out again.I don’t think was never planning on being involved in that Tony. If it’s anything like the shouty mess of previous party leader debates probably a good call.
Very little to gain when you are likely to be shot at from all sides
Because from where I'm standing all the major voices in the party are in favour but they haven't had time to flesh out the details of how it would be implemented. Looks to me like an effort to get it through by the back door.
The C4 Tory Leadership debate that Boris also ducked out off, was by far the best of them. Controlled and to the point. Krishnan Guru-Murphy was excellent. Not sure if he was lined up to do this but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the reason he’s ducked out again.
The plans aren’t fully costed though. It’s suggesting the nationalisation plans are fiscally neutral and so are excluded and from what I’ve read so is the transformational fund (450bn - 250bn over ten years and 150bn over five).
I do like some of the proposed policies though such as increased jobseekers for carers and free social care (far better than broadband for all which I think weakens their credibility). I also haven’t got an issue with corp tax being a little higher (within reason) for larger businesses and it’s good that they are retaining lower rate for some businesses - id have had this £1m rather than £300k though.
The tax the billionaires and tax google etc are great soundbites that pretty much the whole country agrees with, however, are also unrealistic. Billionaires will chose not to be UK domicile and they will only end up properly taxing large tech a lot more with international co-operation on tax. I also see little to incentivise investment and help business ?
Finally, taxing people on £80k is not taxing the rich. I’d imagine a single earner family in the south east wont consider themselves ‘rich’. If anyone saw what happened to France when they tried to be more aggressive with taxing business and the rich they will know how much they struggled to repair the damage even years later. It’s a very fine balance and if you get it wrong the ordinary man/woman on the street will end up plugging the gap !
Ps I also thought they planned to scrap private schools ? Have I missed something or is that not happening now ? (Hopefully not, the additional financial burden of these pupils returning to state schools would be massive).
I don’t think was never planning on being involved in that Tony. If it’s anything like the shouty mess of previous party leader debates probably a good call.
Very little to gain when you are likely to be shot at from all sides
that was decent to be fair. The bbc one was a disgrace !
It’s the head to head he’s pulling out of. I don’t think that the 7 way is leaders.A lot of commentators are saying the seven way debates are good for the PM cos they get to stand there looking PM’y and above the chaos of the smaller parties. Not sure myself.
Are we sure that’s what he pulled out of? Tweet reads like it was a head to head with Corbyn.
The most objective correspondent at the moment is probably Emily Maitlis. No particular bias (or if she does have one, then she does a very good job of disguising it), and very interrogating of anyone she interviews. None of the clickbaitism typical of Julie EtchinghamAll the BBC politics shows have gone to shit. Not a decent moderator anywhere in the BBC it seems.
It’s the head to head he’s pulling out of. I don’t think that the 7 way is leaders.
It’s the head to head he’s pulling out of. I don’t think that the 7 way is leaders.
The most objective correspondent at the moment is probably Emily Maitlis. No particular bias (or if she does have one, then she does a very good job of disguising it), and very interrogating of anyone she interviews. None of the clickbaitism typical of Julie Etchingham
So a clear action by the Tories and an unsubstantiated claim are equal?Also I see both major parties embarrassing themselves again. Tories childishly linking labour manifesto and hundreds (or more) students being illegally registered to vote in labour marginals
I mean WTF ?!!
So a clear action by the Tories and an unsubstantiated claim are equal?
That’s politics baby.
See also commitment to renew Trident. Clearly against Corbyns personal beliefs, but the unions don’t want to lose the jobs.
This is why I’d worry about cutting the working class loose and just having the activist base involved in policy. You get a good balance
Nothing in that manifesto is particularly radical.
I'm all for, if Scotland gets Independence and goes nuke free to widen the Coventry canal basin et al and park the nukes and submarines in there.
I am sure the NIMBY's would be literally up in arms.
You think someone involved in left wing politics their entire life hasn’t had time to think through a fairly standard left wing position?
Tories slammed for 'doctoring' yet another clip of a Labour MP being interviewed
Yet more Tory fake news. Utter utter scum bags. The damage they’ve done to our democracy won’t be fixed in my lifetime. Absolute reprehensible shits.
Fiona Bruce is shockingly bad.There’s some decent interviewers still Andrew Neil has his moments when he can be arsed. It’s more the Dimbleby type they’re missing for panels and debates. I can’t stomach QT or AQ any more.
It’s local authorities and unis doing what they’ve always done before the law change in 2014. Nothing to do with Labour.
Yet more Tory fake news. And Steve and his ilk will file it under “they all lie”.
Fuck this particular brand of the Tory party. Fuck them right in the ear. Not even a political point. Democracy can’t function with these trolls in it. Straight out of the Putin/Trump playbook.
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