Do you all actually believe what you type and look at both sides of the argument? It seems to me most posts/posters reflect one view of either Corbyn's an idiot or Tories are nasty and bend every argument on every subject to suit your own personal agenda. It seems there are no grey areas which clearly can't be right.
There's a good reason why the Tory manifesto has so few costings-they haven't worked it out either.
Boris this morning rightly bringing the discussion back to the most important matters:
1. You can't possibly trust the fantasy land economics of this hard left Labour mob. They'll trash the economy even quicker and more severely than they did last time. And if you haven't got a strong economy everything will suffer.
2. The prospect of the crucial Brexit negotiations being conducted by a half-hearted Corbyn supported by anti Brexiteers SNP and soppy Tim Farron is a non-starter.
They are no worse than May, she is going to be a disaster. If I voted for Brexit her u-turning wouldn't exactly fill me with confidence.
In terms of growth, the UK's economy is currently on par with Italy, by the way. Is Italy's economy regarded as strong now, or has it always been regarded as strong?
I think last nights debate kind of throws out the argument is the BBC left wing? The biased audience and support for Corbyn was laughable. He only made a decision to join the debate a day ago and my did he look unprepared as well. He looked thick and completely passive. Eyes down a lot and not really up for a fight. It was on a plate for him with may not being there which is disgraceful btw and he still cocked it up. Corbyn and abbot and McDonell would be the death of this country. We knew that anyway.
On a side note I absolutely hate Tim Farron with a lot of passion. He is a cretin but you know what last night he impressed me, his biggest hater. He was confident loud and passionate and even a few Whitty jokes. He roasted May for not being there big time. Very very impressive. He grasped it and it hurts me to say it.
I think last nights debate kind of throws out the argument is the BBC left wing? The biased audience and support for Corbyn was laughable. He only made a decision to join the debate a day ago and my did he look unprepared as well. He looked thick and completely passive. Eyes down a lot and not really up for a fight. It was on a plate for him with may not being there which is disgraceful btw and he still cocked it up. Corbyn and abbot and McDonell would be the death of this country. We knew that anyway.
On a side note I absolutely hate Tim Farron with a lot of passion. He is a cretin but you know what last night he impressed me, his biggest hater. He was confident loud and passionate and even a few Whitty jokes. He roasted May for not being there big time. Very very impressive. He grasped it and it hurts me to say it.
Did we watch the same programme? Or did you watch the CCHQ approved highlights?
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What is your opinion then?Do you all actually believe what you type and look at both sides of the argument? It seems to me most posts/posters reflect one view of either Corbyn's an idiot or Tories are nasty and bend every argument on every subject to suit your own personal agenda. It seems there are no grey areas which clearly can't be right.
Yes implementing a manifesto full of policies which people want what a catastrophe. Much better to cosy up to the Saudis and take lunches off schoolchildren.
This is the staple response I am seeing from Labour voters when they are called out.
They cannot defend Corbyn, or a lot of the front bench, they just simply say 'look at the Tories'.
The fact is, Labour are bloody awful. The Tories are also bloody awful, and so are the Lib Dems.
How anyone can passionately get behind any of them is beyond me.
The vast majority of comments by May and the Conservatives, including their social media, are Corbyn bashing. Last night being a prime example. All the other parties, even that UKIP idiot, were putting across their own polices and stance and you had Rudd just shouting random comments about Corbyn.They cannot defend Corbyn, or a lot of the front bench, they just simply say 'look at the Tories'.
not one coherent argument against Corbyn. He's a lefty, he's a disaster - tell me why?
I'm not 100% convinced by him or the shadow cabinet but I need someone to explain to me why he'd be a bigger disaster the the current tory cabinet who I think are the worst prime minister and front bench I can remember.
I must admit this is the first time I have been very split. TM not turning up was a massive own goal last night and shows how fragile she is as a leader although I feel more confident with her in Brexit negotiations. Labour have a very strong manifesto which can relate to the people which is backed up by figures (whether they are right or wrong time will tell I guess) but I cannot see anything in the Tory manifesto that people can actually latch onto?
Based on last night I would actually vote Green! Lucas come across very balanced albeit I do not think she would be a strong negotiator with Europe but maybe this is where Bartley takes up the mantle. Farron was quite frankly annoying and irritating.
There are people like Abbott who I think would be moved elsewhere if Lab got in, and replaced by others not currently in the cabinet - like Clive Lewis as an example.
its all about opinion isn't it! I just thought he come across as a bit of a smart arse, didn't say anything over and above what others covered off and tried to be funny when he wasn't!perhaps one of the most interesting things to come out of last nights debate for me was how much Farron divides opinion, don't mind him myself.
I have given plenty of evidence why the tories are running the country poorly. It's those slating Corbyn who haven't actually given a valid reason why. If the labour manifesto is so poorly costed give some detail.
It is the anti labour faction on here who don't actually give put reasoning to their hatred of Corbyn beyond he's a leftie, he'd be a disaster.
I don't know if Corbyn will be a good PM or if McDonnell will be a good chancellor, I do know May and Hammond are fucking awful, and don't get me started on Boris.
The vast majority of comments by May and the Conservatives, including their social media, are Corbyn bashing. Last night being a prime example. All the other parties, even that UKIP idiot, were putting across their own polices and stance and you had Rudd just shouting random comments about Corbyn.
Immigration concerns
Trident concerns
Shoot to kill concerns
Abbott concerns
McDonnell concerns
That's enough for me not to vote for a party. I am not a Tory or Labour voter, at present I detest them both.
Again, I am not saying the Tories are good, but when Labour are criticised it's either 'double standards' or 'look at the Tories'.
They aren't very good.
Ok I will vote Tory because.I have given plenty of evidence why the tories are running the country poorly. It's those slating Corbyn who haven't actually given a valid reason why. If the labour manifesto is so poorly costed give some detail.
It is the anti labour faction on here who don't actually give put reasoning to their hatred of Corbyn beyond he's a leftie, he'd be a disaster.
I don't know if Corbyn will be a good PM or if McDonnell will be a good chancellor, I do know May and Hammond are fucking awful, and don't get me started on Boris.
no it's not, I've given specific examples.
Ok I will vote Tory because.
1. Corbyn and McDonnell and abbot support terrorist organisations
2.Labour cannot run an economy look at history
3.I hate left wing politics basically and what it stands for.
1. No they don't. They support dialogue which has, time and again, delivered results. (I won't mention Saudi Arabia in case I annoy earlsdon)Ok I will vote Tory because.
1. Corbyn and McDonnell and abbot support terrorist organisations
2.Labour cannot run an economy look at history
3.I hate left wing politics basically and what it stands for.
1. No they don't. They support dialogue which has, time and again, delivered results. (I won't mention Saudi Arabia in case I annoy earlsdon)
2. 2008 was a global economic crash not caused by a labour government. The worst of it could have been avoided with more stringent regulation of the markets which is what labour is proposing.
3. Left wing politics is about making society a level playing field and allowing all to achieve their full potential. If you don't agree with that then nobody can help you.
Take it you didn't read the article I posted a link to the other day?Labour cannot run an economy look at history
Earlsdon - affiliation with terrorist groups? Your language is miles off.
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