I'm genuinely looking for the best overall package to vote for, if anything all this thread has done is make me be wary of Labour even more.
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He said " I condemn all the bombing by both the loyalists and the IRA.” and “I didn’t support the IRA. I don’t support the IRA. What I want everywhere is a peace process,”
Seems clear enough to me. He also was one of of only 68 MPs who signed an early day motion in 1994 which condemned bombing.
The audience wasn't selected by the BBC, it was selected by a polling company (ComRes). Their brief from the BBC was an audience representative of the country demographically and politically and included: age, gender, ethnicity, socio-economic factors, party politics, how they voted in the EU referendum and some who are undecided.
And how much of that is down to the media? I've seen a lot of people, when they have seen him give a speech or something like last nights debate, comment about how he came across very differently to how they expected. There is a false version of him being presented by the media.
The people of his constituency seem happy enough. He got elected in 1983 with 40% of the vote and since then has never got less than 50% of the vote.
You've identified what it is but won't vote for it. You've said often that you prefer the Labour policies but not the salesman. My point to you is that the manifesto would be implemented by more than just one man, and it has a much stronger attempt at costing than the alternative. More to the point, he has consistently supported the need for managed immigration and has recognised a specific problem with uncontrolled immigration undercutting wages. You have a Labour leader saying we need to manage immigration for the first time in decades and putting forward very popular ideas. Whatever you think about him personally, do you not think that what he is offering will do more for you than the alternative?
Hungary and Poland - zero terror attacks.
I guess they are just racist though.
I think it's very close. As I've said, I'm on the fence.
I want to vote for someone other than May, I just don't feel that Corbyn turns me on in the right ways. Unfortunately, even though he is just one person, not the whole party, he is still the leader, and as the person in charge of my country, I don't feel that sits right with me. He isn't the only one either, people like Abbott make my skin crawl.
I simply dislike so many of them, and I don't feel any of them represent me.
I have never been so uncertain about who to vote for in my entire life.
It is interesting that someone who hates Britain so much and wants British people murdered returns enormous majorities at every general election in his constituency.
Not really. Some constituencies will elect the party member whatever he stands for.
If Geoffrey Robinson phoned me up and told me he wanted me dead he probably wouldn't get my vote.
Zero terror attacks in Norway-except for a white guy who shot dead 70 people and blew up 10 others in the name of fundamentalist Christianity.
The other thing I don't get with this Corbyn supports the IRA because his was talking to them is he was talking to the loyalists as well. So using the same logic he also supports them.
Yes, the one and pretty much only right wing attack in a very long time was committed there.
That's a rare occurrence, Islamic attacks are not.
Which avoids the point I made. The fact is many undesirable politicians from both sides get elected as they are in strongholds.
Maybe.... just maybe it's because Corbyn and Labour have run a good campaign so far and May and the Tories look like theirs has been run by SISU.I'm sure you think it was a fair audience. I thought the BBC was right wing?
How many MPs have Muslims murdered in years gone by? Shall we also look at how many Islamic attacks there's been in Canada? Ireland? It is not progressive policy positions which make this country a target.
To be honest, I prefer a politician who feels it's their duty to serve the electorate.
Ok, so you've used Brevik, and you've used the Jo Cox murder. That's pretty much all there is on that front as we know.
Canada will be soon for Islamic terror with their liberal policies, you can be sure of it. Look at Sweden...
Right wing people aren't extremists they're mentally ill duhExcept Canada isn't for it is it. But that's across the Atlantic, what about Ireland? On our doorstep, another progressive government, but again no Islamic attacks on their soil. If we go across to the US we can find plenty more examples of right wingers who killed in the name of their ideology. Dylan Roof, anyone?
If this forum is representative of the country then we truly are fucked.I'm going to put £10 on Corbyn to win the election.
I guess it is time to find out if this forum is representative of the country.
If he wins, this forum clearly speaks more sense than I thought and I also get some extra holiday money.
If he loses, well, then, he loses and I'm probably happy about that too.
Right wing people aren't extremists they're mentally ill duh
Anybody that kills, explodes maims or assaults people because of some political or religious belief is mentally ill. You could argue religion is a mental illness in itself.Usually yes.
Except Canada isn't for it is it. But that's across the Atlantic, what about Ireland? On our doorstep, another progressive government, but again no Islamic attacks on their soil. If we go across to the US we can find plenty more examples of right wingers who killed in the name of their ideology. Dylan Roof, anyone?
If this forum is representative of the country then we truly are fucked.
In all seriousness though Coventry is a Labour city, Labour have traditionally had a working class base and football is a working class sport, so you'd expect more Labour supporters on a CCFC forum. If you went on Oxfordshire Country Cricket Club forum I expect the views would stack up differently.
I hope Labour win and I have more hope than I wish I had because I still expect a conservative majority come next Friday. I don't however think May will see out the 5 years, the public perceive her as weak now and people in the party will smell blood, mentioning no name. BoJo is a nickname.
Except Canada isn't for it is it. But that's across the Atlantic, what about Ireland? On our doorstep, another progressive government, but again no Islamic attacks on their soil. If we go across to the US we can find plenty more examples of right wingers who killed in the name of their ideology. Dylan Roof, anyone?
Anybody that kills, explodes maims or assaults people because of some political or religious belief is mentally ill. You could argue religion is a mental illness in itself.
Like Neo-Nazis?The difference is terrorist groups as opposed to individuals systematically organise themselves with the sole aim of destroying democracy and the will of the people.
Pot kettleoh earlsdon. such a warped young mind
Unless she wins a landslide I would be surprised if she lasts 5 weeks. I think her campaign has been a disaster, from the soundbite "strong and stable" which turned into an object of ridicule to her failure to turn up last night.If this forum is representative of the country then we truly are fucked.
In all seriousness though Coventry is a Labour city, Labour have traditionally had a working class base and football is a working class sport, so you'd expect more Labour supporters on a CCFC forum. If you went on Oxfordshire Country Cricket Club forum I expect the views would stack up differently.
I hope Labour win and I have more hope than I wish I had because I still expect a conservative majority come next Friday. I don't however think May will see out the 5 years, the public perceive her as weak now and people in the party will smell blood, mentioning no name. BoJo is a nickname.
Ok, we're on 3.
Here's a list of hundreds you can chose from in the name of Islam.
List of Islamist terrorist attacks - Wikipedia
There is no comparison I'm afraid.
Timothy Mcveigh. Short memoriesYes, the one and pretty much only right wing attack in a very long time was committed there.
That's a rare occurrence, Islamic attacks are not.
That's why it is largely irrelevant. The civil servants put the priority arguments down, only loosely aligned to the (ir)relevant manifesto, & the key negotiation strategy. The PM largely just delivers to EU leaders what they tell him. PM & staff gets EU responses & counter demands...& it all goes back to civil servants to quickly pick the bones out of before responding & coming back their own counter demands for the PM to return with.They are no worse than May, she is going to be a disaster. If I voted for Brexit her u-turning wouldn't exactly fill me with confidence.
In terms of growth, the UK's economy is currently on par with Italy, by the way. Is Italy's economy regarded as strong now, or has it always been regarded as strong?
The BBC didn't pick the audience.I'm sure you think it was a fair audience. I thought the BBC was right wing?
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