Kingokings204
Well-Known Member
That just won't happen. Sorry.
...which is why we'll end up with tariffs on goods we sell abroad, whilst imports will end up more expensive for us to buy...
If it's not a free market, then it won;t be free trade!That just won't happen. Sorry.
No we have two years and we leave deal or no deal
And before you start moaning consider that Corbyn was demanding the article was triggered immediately the result was announced.
That just won't happen. Sorry.
So it's ok for the invaders to annex a large chunk of a country, and then persecute The indigenousWhy? She's not talking to a terrorist group -- the group in question were defending their right to be in the UK against a military force aimed at going against the democratic will of the majority of its people.
Leaving the single market is a proper hard-left stance - amazed there are some proper hardcore left wingers on here, given they're pleased it'll happen.Won't we have to agree that with each individual country / trading partner? If we can't agree individual terms with those countries / trading partners doesn't it default to WTO terms which I'm pretty sure includes tariffs?
Leaving the single market is a proper hard-left stance - amazed there are some proper hardcore left wingers on here, given they're pleased it'll happen.
(And yes, there is an argument that it'd be good for our industry to be allowed to inject a spot of state aid, whilst also restricting imports)
The problem as seen by some is it protects the wrong people however.Isn't that essentially what the single market is just on a smaller scale? For instance citrus fruit imported into the single market are hit with high tariffs to protect the EU citrus farmers. That's good for EU citrus farmers and the EU is aiding them by doing it.
Why? She's not talking to a terrorist group -- the group in question were defending their right to be in the UK against a military force aimed at going against the democratic will of the majority of its people.
Won't we have to agree that with each individual country / trading partner? If we can't agree individual terms with those countries / trading partners doesn't it default to WTO terms which I'm pretty sure includes tariffs?
Isn't that essentially what the single market is just on a smaller scale? For instance citrus fruit imported into the single market are hit with high tariffs to protect the EU citrus farmers. That's good for EU citrus farmers and the EU is aiding them by doing it.
Eh?The EU is a protectionist union.
Yes it does include tariffs but it won't come to that. A free trade deal will happen it's just how we get there is the question. How much we give up or how I call backsliding we do to get it?
A free trade deal works for both of us. Germany have the biggest say in the EU I think we all can agree on. What they say will go. The fact we are the German car industry biggest export country in the world I would expect this to rule.
Won't we have to agree that with each individual country / trading partner? If we can't agree individual terms with those countries / trading partners doesn't it default to WTO terms which I'm pretty sure includes tariffs?
So it's ok for the invaders to annex a large chunk of a country, and then persecute The indigenous
people that live there, but under no circumstances should they be allowed to fight back.
I bet you're all over the Israeli occupation of Palestine as well aren't you.
Why won't it come to that? Remember you're talking about the government who masterminded the last election and have repeatedly said that no no deal is better than the wrong deal. Seems to me that there's every chance that in some instances it very well may come to that. Remember we're not just talking about a trade deal with the EU here, we're also talking about the rest of the world and unless we just adopt WTO rules we have to negotiate with each and every country / trading block individually.
Canadas deal with the EU take around 8 years to negotiate!
The problem as seen by some is it protects the wrong people however.
One thing's for sure, if there are precedents for protectionist policies already there, they won't just be offering us free trade if we leave their free trade block...
Which is an argument that can be deployed both ways - we will take far less time to agree trade deals as we don't have to get member states to agree.
Which is an argument that can be deployed both ways - we will take far less time to agree trade deals as we don't have to get member states to agree.
Also non of this explains why Canada are about to join the single market. If it's so bad we need to get out why is another western country on the other side of the Atlantic trying to get in?
Eh?
So that flies completely in the face of your argument that they won't impose any tariffs on our goods!
Eh?
So that flies completely in the face of your argument that they won't impose any tariffs on our goods!
Canadas deal with the EU take around 8 years to negotiate!
Think we've got an inside scoop on the government's negotiating strategyIt's just pure windmilling at this point tbf.
That's not relevant to us though as it's different situation and circumstances. Canada weren't part of the eu for 40 years and also don't buy and sell a lot with the eu like we do.
PervertOn this occasion, I favour his ARSE.
Only if both parties agree.Out of interest, does anyone know if Brexit negotiations can be put on hold 'say for 6 months
Or a year, TM calling this election and the subsequent mess it's left us in mean there's never
Been a worse time to negotiate our exit ?
Only if both parties agree.
Although EU has all its rules & regulations on this...it has never been done before so probably all out-dated for the current set-up. If good relations exist I am fairly sure some lee-way would be agreeable for all concerned
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“Hard” and “soft” Brexit are code words for leaving or staying in the EU.
The latter was generally a term for the remainers really.
Well perhaps but 80% of parties voted for last Thursday favor brexit and honoring the result. I can't find the exact quote from McDonell just yet but my point is if they honor the result and do the basics like leave the single market that will be enough for most labour voters and I would return to the party myself. As you know I don't believe in hard and soft brexits I believed in remain or leave. As a leave voter I voted to leave the single market and replace it will a free trade deal. I don't think that's controversial.
You keep contradicting yourself. The result was leave. There was never a question about hard or soft, but Brexit will either be hard or soft and with or without being in the single market. You voted for neither hard nor soft - even if for some strange reason you thought you were voting for hard. You were never consulted on that and have to take Brexit as it comes - for better or for worse. Next time someone offers you something make sure you know what you are getting before agreeing to it.
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