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Alkhen said:

Anyone else think a PL2 might become a factor? Not looked into it recently but I know it's been rumbling on in the background. Could see this recent pandemic focusing a few minds and strengthening the desire from the bigger teams to push it through. It's really crucial we try stay in the Champ for the foreseeable, would hate to miss the cut

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Irish Sky Blue said:

It was a Sisu appointed manager who took us very close to relegation that first season. They had the chance when they arrived to turn the fortunes of the club around. Through their own incompetence they failed to do this. My reply was to a poster who put forward the idea that Sisu are perhaps our most successful owners ever. I think the opposite is true.
The question about who Sisu are serving, the club or their investers has been the same throughout their reign, their investers obviously come first, often at the expense of the club.

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Mucca Mad Boys said:

the likelihood is that we would've been relegated

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Irish Sky Blue said:

It was a Sisu appointed manager who took us very close to relegation that first season. They had the chance when they arrived to turn the fortunes of the club around. Through their own incompetence they failed to do this. My reply was to a poster who put forward the idea that Sisu are perhaps our most successful owners ever. I think the opposite is true.
The question about who Sisu are serving, the club or their investers has been the same throughout their reign, their investers obviously come first, often at the expense of the club.

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Mucca Mad Boys said:

I'm not going to go into semantics, but you've missed the point. If you believe we would've been 10 points better off that year without Coleman (and signings like Dann and Fox), with a transfer embargo too. Power to you. Without the takeover in the 2007/08 season, the likelihood is that we would've been relegated.

At least we can agree that SISU are not our most successful owners in our history.

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Irish Sky Blue said:

Because we were on a downward spiral when they took over, it was inevitable that this would continue? When you think of the people they employed or who they involved with the club, Ransom, Deliu, Igwi, the text a sub guy and finally Fisher is it any wonder that the governance of the club was chaotic? Should we not have expected better than this?

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Mucca Mad Boys said:

I agree with you, some of those decisions were shambolic and that it wasn’t necessary inevitable we going to relegated. After all, we were relegated 4 years after they took over.

I’m not going to indulge in an alternate timeline, but my point remains clear: before SISU, it was a shit show and we would’ve almost certainly got relegated had they not come along in the first place. At the very least, SISU temporarily stopped the rot - injected a bit of cash, made some rubbish decisions and so on. As @chiefdave put it, the future of the club was at risk had they not come in.

Surely everyone on this board can agree on my final point: the conditions in which SISU could even take over the club was caused by chronic mismanagement of our club.

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Grendel said:

Some pretty optimistic views here on Sisu

All they really ever were was a credit note for ranson who convinced them that he could make a return by buying a distressed product

He was incapable and they were wrong. Their money was never enough to even remotely succeed and they have never had a clue how to run the club

there’s no actual investment emotionally either. The notion Sepalla has now become attached is laughable

Poor strategy, poor investment and crazy appointments and senior levels and a company now with zero assets similar debt levels and no hope in reality of competing at the same level they started off in.

It’s hardly business woman of the year stuff

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