You can see them going down the same road as Labour here. The Sanders, Warren, Harris and Bloomberg supporters in particular seem unwilling to accept and support another candidate. Rather than all getting behind Biden as the best of the available options they'd rather shoot themselves in the foot.Bernie lost. Get over it.
I really don't think being concerned that the alternative will not solve the major systemic issue at hand is an 'attack line'.Man the right are good at getting the left to adopt their attack lines. You and BSB are indistinguishable from the alt-right whenever Biden comes up. Bernie lost. Get over it.
The problem with that is that with the Dems identifying as the 'left' party in the states if Biden, very much a centre right candidate, did win the election then America really has the choice to stay there or go further to the right with a republican in 4 years time. None of it is going to solve the issue.You can see them going down the same road as Labour here. The Sanders, Warren, Harris and Bloomberg supporters in particular seem unwilling to accept and support another candidate. Rather than all getting behind Biden as the best of the available options they'd rather shoot themselves in the foot.
Maybe events of the last few days will cause them to focus on getting Trump out.
Nah, Biden's old enough he'd be a one-term president at best.The problem with that is that with the Dems identifying as the 'left' party in the states if Biden, very much a centre right candidate, did win the election then America really has the choice to stay there or go further to the right with a republican in 4 years time. None of it is going to solve the issue.
Seems to be a lot of pressure for him to have Warren as his running mate but she'll be 74 at the next election. Unlikely she'd be able to do 8 years after him.Nah, Biden's old enough he'd be a one-term president at best.
They must be waiting for some of the younger ones to get experience. I’d expect AOC and Beto to put strong campaigns in 4/8 years.Seems to be a lot of pressure for him to have Warren as his running mate but she'll be 74 at the next election. Unlikely she'd be able to do 8 years after him.
What is it with so many of the candidates being old since Obama?
I really don't think being concerned that the alternative will not solve the major systemic issue at hand is an 'attack line'.
How tone deaf do you have to be to respond to an email about this subject by saying they have it coming?where do you start with this guy
It’s far from perfect to expect someone without his history to be the other option. How far are BLM going to get with someone that suggested police shoot them in the leg instead of the chest?Saying he’s racist and dodgy around women is.
You’re letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Would you rather BLM are lobbying a Biden government or a Trump one?
How tone deaf do you have to be to respond to an email about this subject by saying they have it coming?
Seems like a lovely chap.
Tory MP says wearing blackface is an 'entirely acceptable bit of fun'
Yep excellent stuff articulated so clearly
It’s far from perfect to expect someone without his history to be the other option. How far are BLM going to get with someone that suggested police shoot them in the leg instead of the chest?
This is leftist absolutism either, id happily get behind someone with his politics to remove Trump if he hadn’t shown a history of racism and misconduct. Voting for the least bad racist is a zero sum game.
Seems to be a lot of pressure for him to have Warren as his running mate but she'll be 74 at the next election. Unlikely she'd be able to do 8 years after him.
What is it with so many of the candidates being old since Obama?
So it's a case of listen to back people in America and what they want until I disagree with it then.What history of racism? You’re taking one or two vague comments and spinning them into something. That’s what I mean about right wing attack lines. He’s fine. He’s just not your chosen candidate. Making out he’s some racist rapist monster is just sour grapes with no proof to back it up.
BLM will get much much further campaigning a Democrat government than a Republican one and you know it. It’s absolutely ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
There is a distinct danger that the NHS clappy look at me brigade could turn this into a shallow gesture thingAnother virtue signalling thing for people to do on their doorstep? Kneel at a certain time.
Just don't be racist , much more effective.
Exactly, just people trying to compete.There is a distinct danger that the NHS clappy look at me brigade could turn this into a shallow gesture thing
Just to split hairs...I don't think not being racist is enough.Just don't be racist , much more effective.
It goes much further than people posting videos of themselves kneeling to be on the trend.Just to split hairs...I don't think not being racist is enough.
Fucking hell. They can’t help themselves now.Another virtue signalling thing for people to do on their doorstep? Kneel at a certain time.
Just don't be racist , much more effective.
So it's a case of listen to back people in America and what they want until I disagree with it then.
I Won't Vote for Joe Biden, the Lesser Racist, Until I Have To in November
Mate, the guy literally says he didn’t want to vote for Bernie and preferred other options. Bernie bro. Fucking hell.Listen to that one specific black Bernie Bro who agrees with you. Don’t use black people as a human shield for your shitty takes. You want to talk black endorsements, you can’t get much better than Obama.
Take the “my black friend” out of it, your case for him being a racist is weak at best and only put about by his opponents.
I just find it ridiculous to watch what’s happening in the states right now and then to try and pretend Trump is no worse than a guy who has dedicated his life to progressive politics. Student level politics at its very worst.
So still no evidence he has a racist pastSo it's a case of listen to back people in America and what they want until I disagree with it then.
I Won't Vote for Joe Biden, the Lesser Racist, Until I Have To in November
Listen to that one specific black Bernie Bro who agrees with you. Don’t use black people as a human shield for your shitty takes. You want to talk black endorsements, you can’t get much better than Obama.
Take the “my black friend” out of it, your case for him being a racist is weak at best and only put about by his opponents.
I just find it ridiculous to watch what’s happening in the states right now and then to try and pretend Trump is no worse than a guy who has dedicated his life to progressive politics. Student level politics at its very worst.
Another virtue signalling thing for people to do on their doorstep? Kneel at a certain time.
Just don't be racist , much more effective.
Won’t be doing the doorstep thing myself and this comment is more about what you said on the coronavirus thread.
But if you call any of these protests virtue signalling you are an arsehole and part of the problem as far as I’m concerned.
Were you “virtue signalling” when you went on the Cov City March into town a few years back? (Assuming you went on it). Just because you reckon you’ve got it all figured out and don’t give a fuck about it doesn’t mean that’s the case for other people.
“Just don’t be racist” er....fucking exactly what we are saying.
My point is to just not be racist, doesn't matter that Sharon from Essex filmed herself kneeling to post on Facebook.
Of course people will feel strongly about it. I'm not saying I have everything figured out, just don't need to film myself or clap so many times at a certain time to justify it.
One thing I don't get about people gathering in Hyde Park is that they are more likely to contract Coronavirus and the people who they are protesting on behalf of are those most likely to suffer medically if they pick it up as a result. I understand that it is 2 completely different issues, but I am surprised that this hasn't been addressed. Apologies if social distancing has been maintained at the event (but suspect it won't have been, as per beach tourists)
I haven't made anything up. I said about people gathering and the Corona stuff. The same as when people were stood on a bridge.Talking about the people you alluded to in Hyde Park. And you’ve obviously not taken any notice of it, but simply not being racist isn’t enough and that’s the point at the moment.
What I tend to do if I don’t know enough about a particular subject is leave it or ask questions rather than piling in with answers I’ve made up.
I haven't made anything up. I said about people gathering and the Corona stuff. The same as when people were stood on a bridge.
I'm not going to say I know as much about it as somebody who has been a victim of it or deals with the struggle ever day but it kind of goes with what I'm saying. If I start kneeling down to get some Facebook likes or shouting black lives matter then I'm not helping anything apart from making myself feel better.
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