Think what you will. I am only passing on what I've heard.
If it's of no interest, I won't bother.
All the sisu puppets sticking together I see
Why? It's an anonymous internet forum, he doesn't have to declare anything.
All he said was that "he has a mate who...", just your usual message board fodder.
He may well be wrong, who knows, but anyone who declares that they know for sure where the GS is or was is not fooling anybody (and there are a few on here who seem to have convinced themselves that they know more than they do).
By all means chuck mud if you have to, but this constant questioning of the motives of new posters is a bit tiresome.
Welcome to the forum inside track.
Nigel Farage has the golden share
No, Torch, I think you have misread that. Very few people take that view. Some have been at pains to say that ACL have contributed to the problem. None of us know the full facts but I think if anyone looked at all the facts that we do know we can see a pattern of mendacious behaviours from our owners and a tiny number of circumstantial "awkwardnesses" from CCC and ACL. This is also consistent with a real life row where both sides can point to fault but sometimes one is the agresssor and the other is defending themselves. It will simply not do to hide behind a bland, "well, there's fault on both sides."Unfortunately IT there is a general consensus on here that everything is the fault of SISU. ACL are totally innocent. I'm have the opinion that although SISU take the lion's share of the blame, ACL have certainly contributed greatly to the problems our club faces and will continue to face as long as ACL exist.
Try and deviate from the path of least resistance and you are in trouble. Nice try though. You're obviously a SISU rent girl!
No, Torch, I think you have misread that. Very few people take that view. Some have been at pains to say that ACL have contributed to the problem. None of us know the full facts but I think if anyone looked at all the facts that we do know we can see a pattern of mendacious behaviours from our owners and a tiny number of circumstantial "awkwardnesses" from CCC and ACL. This is also consistent with a real life row where both sides can point to fault but sometimes one is the agresssor and the other is defending themselves. It will simply not do to hide behind a bland, "well, there's fault on both sides."
The degree of blame is therefore vastly on one side. For me if you look at the whole story it is consistent with an abusive partner trying to get their own way and manipulating every situation to their own advantage. We need them gone.
I can simplify your post into four words: It's all SISUs fault.
You could have saved yourself a bit of typing. We do need them gone. SISU and ACL.
Thanks for those who offered common sense support for me here, but I am seriously considering whether to contribute further. I hadn't quite appreciated the degree of closed-mind bigotry that existed.
Oh, and by the way, to those referring to me as "he", that is another mistaken assumption.
Have a nice day CHAPS!
If that's what you think you have not really read it. There is subtlety there you seem to have missed. Just because one draws a conclusion does not mean the evidence has been seen as black and White. Please see the difference between " I'm right, you're wrong" and "Well, both have contributed to the problem but the driver is clearly party A"
I recognise majority of blame on one side, a few defensive mistakes on the other side, you don't.No, I have read it. I just can't be doing with the embarrassing "abusive partner" analogies. I recognise blame on both sides. You don't.
Thanks for those who offered common sense support for me here, but I am seriously considering whether to contribute further. I hadn't quite appreciated the degree of closed-mind bigotry that existed.
Oh, and by the way, to those referring to me as "he", that is another mistaken assumption.
Have a nice day CHAPS!
It's Tommy Hutchison actually....
Have you looked in the mirror?I am still convinced I am Joy Sepalla and this is why I have never been able to find her!!
Backtracking started a while ago
You'd have thought that if they thought there was any chance of the appeal being sucessful then they would have continued with it. I mean they want what's best for the club don't they?What would happen if we were 6 points off the playoffs and they took 10 points and then afterwards they realise they shouldn't have taken them?
If they shouldn't have taken the points then why no appeal?
Both parts of the club are now in administration is thought I read?
If this were PWKH Torch, Grendo et al would be effusive with sarcastic comments and little else. Now someone emerges in their favour and they all unite in defence against 'bigoted' posting.
Get off the high horses folks-it's tiresome.
I've supported CCFC since being a boy (admittadely post Tommy days) but until this post I always thought it was Hutchinson!!
I just did a search for Tommy Hutchinson on google and up comes a picture of Tommy wearing sky blue so it seems it wasn't just me.
Carry on its good stuff. There are some fools on here who seem to think that the club having constantly been ripped off is a good thing. Just do what I do and ignore the nonsense. Soon there will be an alternate owner (or none at all) who wi want a much better arrangement than sisu asked for. Watch the backtracking and spluttering then it'll be we worth hanging around I promise you.
It certainly is. At least with PKWH he doesn't hide behind a self indulgent pseudonym, choosing to let us know who he is rather than retain his anonymity and release his views and with it inevitable spin through pretend journalist friends. He's taken dog's abuse by many on here for simply raising his head above the parapet and informing us what's going on, albeit from an obviously biased perspective. However when someone appears claiming to have an 'inside track' and seems to be giving credibility to the owners and their position in this fiasco they lap it up....they do so without question or suspicion as to whether the poster has an agenda in leaking information and why would they? They're so desperate for anyone to prove that they were right to back the owners all along so they can put a stop to the "backtracking" that they themselves have embarrassingly had to partake in over the last few months when they've seen those they've backed to the hilt rip the heart and soul out of our club.
Now I am in no way suggesting that our Club has been ripped off by paying these quite high management fees, I'd just like to know what they are for and as you say whether we got value for money.Those SISU management fees have, on the other hand, been incredible value for money...how many months sorry, years rent would they pay, hmm?
Ripped off ? by sisu !...never, thats soley ACL's department, ask Grendel he'll tell you.
So it wasn't me.I am in no way suggesting
Who said SISU had ripped us off?
I said:
So it wasn't me.
Yes with the club, not with SISU!I we know it wasn't you, you seem to have no issue with the club paying a colossal rent for years and have no benefits whatsoever from the stadium income.
I think we all know where your true allegiance lies.
I we know it wasn't you, you seem to have no issue with the club paying a colossal rent for years and have no benefits whatsoever from the stadium income.
I think we all know where your true allegiance lies.
Yes with the club, not with SISU!
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